Ferrari F1 2018 car Speculation Thread

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Ferrari F1 2018 car Speculation Thread

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This is the speculation thread about the 2018 car. Rumors, articles, ideas and fantasies about the car can be posted here. Once the car gets officially launched, this thread will be closed and discussion continues in the official thread.

Topic will be unlocked after the season finisher in Abu Dhabi. Name will be updated once official info has been released.
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Diffuser edges seems like an area where Ferrari is considering a change in philosophy when you consider everything we saw the past few days.

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Agree re diffuser; they’ve been doing a lot of work in this area at the back end of the season...

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/vide ... i+diffuser

...and if we think back to 2016, they spent a lot of time in the tea-tray/bat wing area (perhaps with their novel sidepod solution in mind, given how that needed to tie together with the overall aero philosophy).

So I guess this is an area they’re looking at heavily and we have some evidence to support that.

In terms of pure speculation, Ferrari had issues vs. Mercedes at tracks with long high speed corners and straights; to me this is primarily power unit deficit - they don’t have the same efficiency or deployment, so more on throttle favours Mercedes - but will the trend be towards longer wheelbase cars for more downforce producing surface?

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Car launched on Feb 22nd, with a filming day once again used this year, at Barcelona prior to the test.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/ferr ... ar-989455/

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Bets on car name? SF 18-H?

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F1NAC wrote:
19 Dec 2017, 09:32
Bets on car name? SF 18-H?
Or bets on the name Seb will give his car?

I will go with Emma.

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The waiting ends on February 22nd.

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F1NAC wrote:
19 Dec 2017, 09:32
Bets on car name? SF 18-H?
lets harken back to the glory days and name it the F2018. Maybe that will stir up the
F1 gods to bless them with a WCC/WDC

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cplchanb wrote:
19 Dec 2017, 18:28
F1NAC wrote:
19 Dec 2017, 09:32
Bets on car name? SF 18-H?
lets harken back to the glory days and name it the F2018. Maybe that will stir up the
F1 gods to bless them with a WCC/WDC
F2018H wouldn't mind.

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cplchanb wrote:
19 Dec 2017, 18:28
F1NAC wrote:
19 Dec 2017, 09:32
Bets on car name? SF 18-H?
lets harken back to the glory days and name it the F2018. Maybe that will stir up the
F1 gods to bless them with a WCC/WDC
Let's look back even further, and name the car after the engine's configuration.

eg Ferrari 166T5.

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“New Ferrari F1 car passes FIA crash tests...Ferrari’s latest Formula 1 contender successfully passed its FIA frontal crash tests on Friday, and it is believed to be the first 2018 model to do so.”

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/new- ... ts-990646/

I thought this was also interesting:

“Like its rivals, Ferrari also now has to comply with the recently issued Technical Directive 044 on steering and front suspension, which is intended to stop teams from lowering the front ride height in corners.

Ferrari is one of several top teams understood to be in the process modifying its original geometry in order to remove any doubts about legality.”


We also heard earlier today that Ferrari - contrary to Red Bull - were in favour of the stricter controls on suspension, so interesting that they’re still having to make changes.

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Probably because they couldn't get it to work. In theory the concept should work, having the car roll into the turn, as opposed to the natural tendency to roll away.

5mm of incidental movement is ridiculous though, as a car will easily move up and down more than this with a high caster angle.
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Significant kingpin inclination might be at play here. I suggested in another thread that it may be approaching zero or negative scrub radius. Indicated by the far-inboard position of the upper pivot on the wheel upright on the '17 Merc and STR.

Effectively the front tires would be cam-ing up and down on their inner corners. Ride height reducing as steering angle increases and the tires "fall off" the center of the inner sidewall. Combined with caster angle, perhaps the effect is increased.

The regulations were already quite limiting. Only four pivot points permitted on the front uprights, for example. 2 arms, 1 steering and 1 suspension, effectively. Now there will/might be dimensional tolerances applied, if this article is to be believed.

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Let's look back even further, and name the car after the engine's configuration.

eg Ferrari 166T5.
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I very much agree with the cubic capacity of one cylinder as the name of the car.....go back to tradition and try something different... Ive been saying this for years..

as for the T5 it is the 5th version of the car in hybrid era...but doesnt have a transverse gearbox......how bout' H5 (hybrid) 166H5 or 166P5 for prototype

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Tipo59/06 wrote:
25 Dec 2017, 23:52
Let's look back even further, and name the car after the engine's configuration.

eg Ferrari 166T5.
I very much agree with the cubic capacity of one cylinder as the name of the car.....go back to tradition and try something different... Ive been saying this for years..

as for the T5 it is the 5th version of the car in hybrid era...but doesnt have a transverse gearbox......how bout' H5 (hybrid) 166H5 or 166P5 for prototype
T for Turbo.
P/Prototype designation was used for endurance racing, so wouldn't suit F1.

The early turbo cars in the 1980s were called 126C (C = compressor). So maybe C instead of T, or CH for compressor/hybrid.

Not sure why 126, maybe for the vee angle (120°)?

So 166CH5?

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