Ferrari F1 2018 car Speculation Thread

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Re: Ferrari F1 2018 car Speculation Thread

Post by f1316 » Fri Jan 12, 2018 2:03 pm

aral wrote:
Fri Jan 12, 2018 12:34 pm
TJ13 had to take down that report as it was so obviously an old rendition of a year or two ago.
The thumb nose is designed for a purpose, to comply with measurements and also to allow maximum airflow. Unless measurement rules are altered, than the thumb is the current best solution.
You say that, but there’s obviously *a* philosophy that values a more ‘normal’, thinner nose over the thumb; it’s not just Mercedes who, although the most successful team could be argued to have different drag/df concerns due to more powerful PU, but Toro Rosso following this route validates that there is a school of thought where this can work.

Not disagreeing that the thumb nose seems to be optimal, but don’t think it’s quite that clear cut.

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Re: Ferrari F1 2018 car Speculation Thread

Post by Big Mangalhit » Fri Jan 12, 2018 3:11 pm

Good point. Also it's interesting that Ferrari hired a development pilot from toro rosso, which has a very similar front suspension and nose with Mercedes.

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There were also rumours beginning of last year that the Ferrari lacked in front DF. I wonder if they will adopt the thinner nose and try to put that cape/diffuser behind it like Merc:

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Re: Ferrari F1 2018 car Speculation Thread

Post by Just_a_fan » Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:20 pm

Big Mangalhit wrote:
Fri Jan 12, 2018 3:11 pm

There were also rumours beginning of last year that the Ferrari lacked in front DF. I wonder if they will adopt the thinner nose and try to put that cape/diffuser behind it like Merc:

https://cdn-1.motorsport.com/images/mgl ... w-nose.jpg
The Mercedes nose cape is more about the airflow under the car, it's not producing front end downforce. Indeed, it might actually create lift or, at best, be lift neutral. It's basically a huge vortex generator and director. The Mercedes struggled with rear tyre consistency early on and this likely helps the rear end perform better.
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Re: Ferrari F1 2018 car Speculation Thread

Post by Vanja #66 » Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:59 pm

If Ferrari were to adopt high front suspension arms, it would ruin their aerodynamic concept. That's why last year's front suspension arms were lower than in season 2016.

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Re: Ferrari F1 2018 car Speculation Thread

Post by Manoah2u » Sat Jan 13, 2018 5:52 pm

Big Mangalhit wrote:
Fri Jan 12, 2018 3:11 pm
Good point. Also it's interesting that Ferrari hired a development pilot from toro rosso, which has a very similar front suspension and nose with Mercedes.

https://www.thisisf1.com/wp-content/upl ... AExn9O.jpg

https://www.formula1.com/content/fom-we ... 6.high.jpg
https://www.formula1.com/content/fom-we ... 599825.jpg


There were also rumours beginning of last year that the Ferrari lacked in front DF. I wonder if they will adopt the thinner nose and try to put that cape/diffuser behind it like Merc:

https://cdn-1.motorsport.com/images/mgl ... w-nose.jpg
wow, i never noticed that the toro rosso and merc looked THAT similar :shock:
Dumpster sounds so much more classy. It's the diamond of the cesspools.

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Re: Ferrari F1 2018 car Speculation Thread

Post by Zynerji » Sat Jan 13, 2018 6:34 pm

Manoah2u wrote:
Sat Jan 13, 2018 5:52 pm
Big Mangalhit wrote:
Fri Jan 12, 2018 3:11 pm
Good point. Also it's interesting that Ferrari hired a development pilot from toro rosso, which has a very similar front suspension and nose with Mercedes.

https://www.thisisf1.com/wp-content/upl ... AExn9O.jpg

https://www.formula1.com/content/fom-we ... 6.high.jpg
https://www.formula1.com/content/fom-we ... 599825.jpg


There were also rumours beginning of last year that the Ferrari lacked in front DF. I wonder if they will adopt the thinner nose and try to put that cape/diffuser behind it like Merc:

https://cdn-1.motorsport.com/images/mgl ... w-nose.jpg
wow, i never noticed that the toro rosso and merc looked THAT similar :shock:
Imagine if Honda pulls one out of the hat this year... :-Þ

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Re: Ferrari F1 2018 car Speculation Thread

Post by nokivasara » Tue Jan 16, 2018 5:35 pm

Big Mangalhit wrote:
Fri Jan 12, 2018 3:11 pm
Good point. Also it's interesting that Ferrari hired a development pilot from toro rosso, which has a very similar front suspension and nose with Mercedes.

https://www.thisisf1.com/wp-content/upl ... AExn9O.jpg

https://www.formula1.com/content/fom-we ... 6.high.jpg
https://www.formula1.com/content/fom-we ... 599825.jpg

There were also rumours beginning of last year that the Ferrari lacked in front DF. I wonder if they will adopt the thinner nose and try to put that cape/diffuser behind it like Merc:

https://cdn-1.motorsport.com/images/mgl ... w-nose.jpg
Great picture (the 1st) ! At first glance the rest of the cars look really alike too but then you see past the nose and suspension and realize they aren't similar at all. Really nicely put together!