carisi2k wrote: ↑
Fri Feb 09, 2018 12:00 pm
Cyril isn't going to say that they went backwards now is he and 0.3 seconds is nowhere near enough improvement over the 2016 engine when small things like fuels could have gotten that 0.3 seconds on the 2016 engine. Mercedes and Ferrari both gained about 1 second at least over there 2016 engines which shows you how silly it is to say that Renault made a gain over the 2016 engine.
The 2016 Renault unit was actually reliable which the 2017 engine was not and so maybe the decision making progress withing Renault is not that great about when to bring a new concept to market. Hindsight is good to have but maybe Renault should have continued on with an updated 2016 concept instead of the 2017 concept which looks like it has taken an extra year to be truly ready.
I stand by my statements and find it interesting that Mclaren know that the 2018 Renault is 1 second faster then the 2017 spec 3.x Honda and yet Red Bull don't seem to know much at all about the new Renault engine. In fact the only thing about engines coming from the mouths of Red bull bosses seems to be about the Honda engine which is why I am saying the things about Red Bull using Honda engines in 2018.
1 second a lap over the 2017 honda that mclaren used will not let Mclaren fight for a WC. It won't even allow RBR to fight for a WC. They are going to need 2 seconds of improvement to be able to challenge for a WC.
you continue say lie?
Where is the documents? For example Mercedes and Ferrari both gained about 1 second at least over there 2016 engines
I think you have more data than Vasseur
The engine was 2016, but the handicap was only a couple of tenths.
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/13416 ... id--sauber
another point 2017 Renault motor 1 second faster not 2018 Renault motor
You can say this lie on Honda topic.
I am sure that everybody believe to you on there