2018 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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Re: 2018 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

Post by Vanja #66 » Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:31 pm

Vettel165 wrote:
Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:37 pm
You can read the whole article here.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/how- ... s-1024781/
That article, to be honest, is somewhat poorly written. Everything after front wing part is confusing, they mention their barge boards were basic in testing, which allegedly changed in Bahrain - maybe I missed it, but there were no photos or reports of changes there or anywhere else.
And they call it a stall. A STALL!

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Re: 2018 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

Post by LM10 » Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:33 pm

Vanja #66 wrote:
Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:31 pm
Vettel165 wrote:
Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:37 pm
You can read the whole article here.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/how- ... s-1024781/
That article, to be honest, is somewhat poorly written. Everything after front wing part is confusing, they mention their barge boards were basic in testing, which allegedly changed in Bahrain - maybe I missed it, but there were no photos or reports of changes there or anywhere else.
As far as I've seen on photos their barge boards were the same in Bahrain as they were in Melbourne.

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Re: 2018 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

Post by Harvester » Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:38 pm

marmer wrote:
Wed Apr 11, 2018 4:13 pm
Big Tea wrote:
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If Mercedes don't win in China, it will be very difficult for them to recover. Either that, or they'll just pump in even more money (already an insane amount by them) and win at all costs.

China should suite Mercedes more, cooler track namely - as they definitely struggle with overheating the tyres. However, there are some positives to look for in Ferrari's case - their top speed being the most positive fact by far. Merc had the upper hand in that area so far and it's not a small thing here. However, if Merc take pole, the only chance for Ferrari will be an undercut or an overtake, and we've seen just how hard that is with 2018 cars. If Ferrari hadn't improved their top speed so much, I wouldn't count even on a second place here to be honest.
But it is not a slow car that has stopped the wins this year, it has been unplanned things. The gearbox penalty and VB crash or the Safety car incident could all have happened with a dominant car. Things just happen if you have the fastest car or not.
the gearbox penalty might not have cost them the win. ham would have still started 4th, he would have still needed to pass kimi and botas somehow lets not forget kimi also had bad luck so that might not have been easy.

lets say the front 3 got away as they did and Hamilton didn't move up he would have had to pass kimi on pure pace or by better race strat. while Bottas would have been easier if he had been battling kimi for too long bottas could have been too far ahead and vettal might have been able to pit in the right window
It was suggested that Hamilton had his car setup for the race. So probably he would have been in front of Botas in qualifying if they hadn't had penalty.

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Re: 2018 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

Post by marmer » Thu Apr 12, 2018 7:25 am

It's all what if's and maybes fact is vet has been flawless so far and has had luck so when he gets his bad luck he might now have the lead he needs to stay ahead

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Re: 2018 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

Post by Juzh » Thu Apr 12, 2018 10:54 am

GPR-A wrote:
Wed Apr 11, 2018 5:01 pm
Once they manage to resolve the fuel consumption issues
Assuming (!) ferrari ICE has the same or even more outright power, the only reason they're down of fuel consumption is ERS deficiency. There's just no other way anything else could possibly influence consumption to such a degree, especially this year when it seems ferrari has drastically reduced drag. Mercedes has had by far the best ERS for years and I don't see that changing over the course of the year.

In a way VSC probably saved ferrari a little bit in bahrain and gave them some laps to save up some fuel.

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Re: 2018 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

Post by MtthsMlw » Thu Apr 12, 2018 11:17 am

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Re: 2018 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

Post by Vasconia » Thu Apr 12, 2018 11:39 am

Juzh wrote:
Thu Apr 12, 2018 10:54 am
GPR-A wrote:
Wed Apr 11, 2018 5:01 pm
Once they manage to resolve the fuel consumption issues
Assuming (!) ferrari ICE has the same or even more outright power, the only reason they're down of fuel consumption is ERS deficiency. There's just no other way anything else could possibly influence consumption to such a degree, especially this year when it seems ferrari has drastically reduced drag. Mercedes has had by far the best ERS for years and I don't see that changing over the course of the year.

In a way VSC probably saved ferrari a little bit in bahrain and gave them some laps to save up some fuel.
I do think that fuel problems are still there, but Bahrein was quite positive mainly because the race was that slow for the top teams that fuel consumption was not a problem.

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Re: 2018 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

Post by Kingshark » Sat Apr 14, 2018 9:03 pm

To my surprise, the car looked absolutely mighty today. You would expect a green, old Shanghai circuit to be Mercedes territory. Ferrari absolutely smashed it.

Ferrari modified their floor and diffuser after Melbourne to stabilize the rear. That could explain why they were so slow around Australia.

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Re: 2018 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

Post by giantfan10 » Sat Apr 14, 2018 9:14 pm

Vasconia wrote:
Thu Apr 12, 2018 11:39 am
Juzh wrote:
Thu Apr 12, 2018 10:54 am
GPR-A wrote:
Wed Apr 11, 2018 5:01 pm
Once they manage to resolve the fuel consumption issues
Assuming (!) ferrari ICE has the same or even more outright power, the only reason they're down of fuel consumption is ERS deficiency. There's just no other way anything else could possibly influence consumption to such a degree, especially this year when it seems ferrari has drastically reduced drag. Mercedes has had by far the best ERS for years and I don't see that changing over the course of the year.

In a way VSC probably saved ferrari a little bit in bahrain and gave them some laps to save up some fuel.
I do think that fuel problems are still there, but Bahrein was quite positive mainly because the race was that slow for the top teams that fuel consumption was not a problem.
Its amazing to me how a flat out guess by a journalist in testing is now being regurgitated as fact 3 races into the season.Yes i'm reffering to this fuel consumption nonsense that was a blatant guess by a journalist as to why ferrari was hiding their true pace in testing .

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Re: 2018 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

Post by Vanja #66 » Sun Apr 15, 2018 7:08 am

giantfan10 wrote:
Sat Apr 14, 2018 9:14 pm
Its amazing to me how a flat out guess by a journalist in testing is now being regurgitated as fact 3 races into the season.Yes i'm reffering to this fuel consumption nonsense that was a blatant guess by a journalist as to why ferrari was hiding their true pace in testing .
Then in AUS that same magazine wrote about Mercedes fuel consumption problems. Beautiful :D
And they call it a stall. A STALL!

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Re: 2018 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

Post by JonoNic » Sun Apr 15, 2018 7:10 am

Vanja #66 wrote:
giantfan10 wrote:
Sat Apr 14, 2018 9:14 pm
Its amazing to me how a flat out guess by a journalist in testing is now being regurgitated as fact 3 races into the season.Yes i'm reffering to this fuel consumption nonsense that was a blatant guess by a journalist as to why ferrari was hiding their true pace in testing .
Then in AUS that same magazine wrote about Mercedes fuel consumption problems. Beautiful :D
If Ferrari takes a one-two then that rumour is dead.

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Re: 2018 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

Post by Chene_Mostert » Sun Apr 15, 2018 9:07 am

What an unbelievable stupid race strategy by the team :(
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Re: 2018 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

Post by MtthsMlw » Sun Apr 15, 2018 9:12 am

Well even if VET stayed in front he would have been overtaken by the red bulls anyway.

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Re: 2018 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

Post by Mr.G » Sun Apr 15, 2018 9:19 am

It's too late now but yesterday when they go out in Q2 on ultras I thought for a while, they waited to Mercedes and then swap the strategy... But they decided not to... I don't say I would help, but it would be a bold move :)
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Re: 2018 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

Post by ME4ME » Sun Apr 15, 2018 9:29 am

Chene_Mostert wrote:
Sun Apr 15, 2018 9:07 am
What an unbelievable stupid race strategy by the team :(
Yes I think that's fair to say. They lost track position to Bottas unneccesarily. Also they destroyed Kimi's race, and only got lucky in the end. A lot of anger will be deflected towards Verstappen, and rightfully so. But Ferrari made a couple of bad calls today.