2018 McLaren F1 Team - Renault

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Xero wrote:
24 May 2018, 16:45
Pace doesn't look too bad actually. Qually is going to be tight! There's definitely a good chance of both McLarens reaching Q3 here. A lot of teams are really struggling with their tyres, particularly the Hypers. Could be an opportunity for McLaren who, like Red Bull, look to be kinder on them. Going to be a lottery!
McLaren are really struggling in the middle sector with all the slow corners. If they can sort that out, both cars should be in Q3 no problem.

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unless they get a safety car miracle in the race, they will be far around 8 or 10 in race. a bit of a surprise because here i was hoping for maybe a lucky 6 for qualy and race.. but looks more like 8 or 10

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nirvaand wrote:
24 May 2018, 16:58
Xero wrote:
24 May 2018, 16:45
Pace doesn't look too bad actually. Qually is going to be tight! There's definitely a good chance of both McLarens reaching Q3 here. A lot of teams are really struggling with their tyres, particularly the Hypers. Could be an opportunity for McLaren who, like Red Bull, look to be kinder on them. Going to be a lottery!
McLaren are really struggling in the middle sector with all the slow corners. If they can sort that out, both cars should be in Q3 no problem.
From my brief view of P2 it looks like the main culprit is the hairpin, the car just doesn't seem to want to rotate at slow speed.

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Xero wrote:
24 May 2018, 18:52
nirvaand wrote:
24 May 2018, 16:58
Xero wrote:
24 May 2018, 16:45
Pace doesn't look too bad actually. Qually is going to be tight! There's definitely a good chance of both McLarens reaching Q3 here. A lot of teams are really struggling with their tyres, particularly the Hypers. Could be an opportunity for McLaren who, like Red Bull, look to be kinder on them. Going to be a lottery!
McLaren are really struggling in the middle sector with all the slow corners. If they can sort that out, both cars should be in Q3 no problem.
From my brief view of P2 it looks like the main culprit is the hairpin, the car just doesn't seem to want to rotate at slow speed.
Yeah, it was quite visible when running on board with Fernando in FP1 and 2.

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Brown says: “2013 and ’14 weren’t great years, so I think it’s fair
to say the performance decline started in ’13. It may have spiked
in ’15-17, but that was the start of it. It’s a combination of people,
processes, tools and accountability. We’re undertaking a complete
review of who, how, what, why and where.
“I’ve challenged the technical leadership team and am playing a role
in asking why isn’t this working, why is it taking us so long to identify
an issue, why are we having an issue? The frustrating thing is that as fast
as F1 moves in some aspects, it’s slower in others. Just because you’ve
identified something, sometimes it takes time to identify the fix.
“This is now a rebuilding process. Rome wasn’t built in a day.
What I’m convinced of is we have a world championship team with
world championship people with world championship equipment
that has just lost its way. We need to get it back on course. I have the
ultimate accountability to make that happen.”
Brown has yet to finalise the longer-term technical structure, but
talk of accountability suggests the need for a single technical chief
sitting above the rest. But unless this is an appointment from within
– and there are question marks over the roles of Prodromou and Morris
– it’s not yet clear who this could be. If a new hire needs to come in,
with the way contracts are set up with non-compete clauses, it could
take a minimum of a year, and very likely more, before they step through
the door at Woking. Creating the structure is one thing, populating it
is another, even if much of the restructure can be covered by shifting
quality personnel around.
“I’ve not landed on a final conclusion of exactly what’s needed,
but clearly as you go up the food chain there needs to be increased
responsibility and accountability and decision-making,” says Brown.
“There needs to be a point where people have the authority to make
a decision. You need to create a system whereby when debate happens
you have someone with the ability to say, ‘I’ve listened to all of you,
this is what we’re doing’.”
If you want to read more, get the latest Autosport magazine. It's great read. McLaren are currently in the progress of reviewing everything, from staff to facilities. The good thing is that they are finally awake in Woking. They are clearly reorganizing for 2021. According to Brown we shouldn't expect them to challenge Ferrari, Mercedes or Red Bull in 2019 and 2020. The flat structure should also go.

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RonDennis wrote:
24 May 2018, 19:26
According to Brown we shouldn't expect them to challenge Ferrari, Mercedes or Red Bull in 2019 and 2020. The flat structure should also go.
I guess that's key to whether Alonso stays or not. If that's the case, I don't see him at McLaren next year.

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nirvaand wrote:
24 May 2018, 19:59
RonDennis wrote:
24 May 2018, 19:26
According to Brown we shouldn't expect them to challenge Ferrari, Mercedes or Red Bull in 2019 and 2020. The flat structure should also go.
I guess that's key to whether Alonso stays or not. If that's the case, I don't see him at McLaren next year.
Then it means he'd be out of F1... Maybe he'll move to their IndyCar team?
Q: (Stefano Mancini – La Stampa) Kimi, will you help Vettel to win his championship this year?
Kimi Raikkonen: I can only drive one car, obviously. 
@2018 Singapore Grand Prix drivers press conference.

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BrunoH wrote:
24 May 2018, 17:06
unless they get a safety car miracle in the race, they will be far around 8 or 10 in race. a bit of a surprise because here i was hoping for maybe a lucky 6 for qualy and race.. but looks more like 8 or 10
All will go with the race and how it will play out. If the race will be a classical with no crashes, failures and no problems with tires for the competition, than 8-10 is their best possible result to achieve. If the race evolves in a somewhat Baku, and if top two teams really struggle with graining than something more is possible. They need to be at the right place at the right time. Hopefully Alonso and Vandoorne dont get taken out or make a mistake.
If i would get the money to start my own F1 team, i would revive Arrows

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Ground Effect wrote:
24 May 2018, 20:09
nirvaand wrote:
24 May 2018, 19:59
RonDennis wrote:
24 May 2018, 19:26
According to Brown we shouldn't expect them to challenge Ferrari, Mercedes or Red Bull in 2019 and 2020. The flat structure should also go.
I guess that's key to whether Alonso stays or not. If that's the case, I don't see him at McLaren next year.
Then it means he'd be out of F1... Maybe he'll move to their IndyCar team?
Or Enstone if they feel they can challenge.

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nirvaand wrote:
24 May 2018, 19:59
RonDennis wrote:
24 May 2018, 19:26
According to Brown we shouldn't expect them to challenge Ferrari, Mercedes or Red Bull in 2019 and 2020. The flat structure should also go.
I guess that's key to whether Alonso stays or not. If that's the case, I don't see him at McLaren next year.
With or without Alonso. These changes take time and they haven't even finalized what they exactly want. It's also not like they're not going to push in '19 and '20.

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HTC and Mclaren announce partnership
https://www.mclaren.com/formula1/partne ... d-esports/

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HTC still exists? lol.

Alonso to Mercedes in 2019 by the sounds of it.
"Explain the ending to F1 in football terms"
"Hamilton was beating Verstappen 7-0, then the ref decided F%$& rules, next goal wins
while also sending off 4 Hamilton players to make it more interesting"

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Manoah2u wrote:
25 May 2018, 11:33
HTC still exists? lol.

Alonso to Mercedes in 2019 by the sounds of it.
I think they'd sooner hire Nigel Mansell
Q: (Stefano Mancini – La Stampa) Kimi, will you help Vettel to win his championship this year?
Kimi Raikkonen: I can only drive one car, obviously. 
@2018 Singapore Grand Prix drivers press conference.

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Manoah2u wrote:
25 May 2018, 11:33
HTC still exists? lol.
Of course they do! They made the Vive VR headset, hence the VR deal with McLaren. They're also still banging out high end smart phones. Maybe they only target certain countries these days? Where you from Manoah2u?

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I think ALO will do a 12.2 - 12.4 in Quali.