2018 Scuderia Toro Rosso F1 Team - Honda

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Maybe that MGU-H had some new features, and they want to analyze the data before the issue happens again at the middle of a race... Being Gasly 16 with an old PU, was a smart decision to put a new updated PU but with the "old" MGU-H spec. Hope that in France they had the issue identified and solved for the next PU change

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rogazilla wrote:
11 Jun 2018, 16:27
From what I read, here is what I think I understood. The main update is ICE for Canada.

P's unit is 6 races old and Honda replaced closer to the entire PU. ICE, TC, MGUH...

H's unit is only 1 race old, Honda only replaced H's ICE but left most of the other parts the same.

The unit that may be the cause of Saturday's issue is MGU-H. Keep in mind we don't know if it is broken as P reported loss of power towards end of FP3, as precaution and time restrain, Honda replaced the entire PU before Quali. They are going to investigate the entire unit to find what's going on. Sunday they fitted entire new unit in the back of the car for race.
Well put

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come france if GAS has a normal qualy we will see where STR true position hopefully they can work on some aero updates .. it was great to overtake FI in the strait , where to find some onboard camera from GAS ?!!
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Norris replacing Hartley could still happen:

"If there was an opportunity for Lando to gain experience then that’s something we would consider," Brown responded when asked last weekend in Montreal if he would be interested in loaning Norris to Toro Rosso this season.

"Lando is a McLaren driver. He has a bright future here, but we do not have an interest in letting Lando go anywhere on a long-term deal.

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Snorked wrote:
12 Jun 2018, 13:35
Norris replacing Hartley could still happen:

"If there was an opportunity for Lando to gain experience then that’s something we would consider," Brown responded when asked last weekend in Montreal if he would be interested in loaning Norris to Toro Rosso this season.

"Lando is a McLaren driver. He has a bright future here, but we do not have an interest in letting Lando go anywhere on a long-term deal.
Like I posted earlier, I believe the issue Mclaren had with the arrangement was Toro Rosso wanted the loan deal to involve the 2019 season as well. That likely put Mclaren off taking into consideration that there are still question marks over their own driver line up for next year.
If they can keep Stoffel and Fernando for next year, then it could happen. But I feel Lando should complete the F2 season and try and win, meanwhile Hartley is given more time. if he doesn't improve, then Lando for 2019.
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Not sure how reliable Auto Bild is, but they reported that Marko said Honda's update was worth 3 tenths. They also state that the decision to team up with Honda has already been taken.

http://www.autobild.de/artikel/formel-1 ... 20491.html

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Are the media outlets just forming a giant echo chamber regarding the Honda decision or does any of them have proven insight into what goes on at RBR?

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auto bild is pretty reliable source. i believe the update is 0.5 sec faster

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It was sort of odd how the Norris rumor flooded the internet. I wonder if this was a tactic to light a fire under Hartley's ass; applying a bit of pressure.
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If I were Hartley... the pressure should already be on and if the management is not communicating the urgency for him to perform then that's a bad management on the team. For a rookie driver, shouldn't need to use media to apply pressure.

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techman wrote:
12 Jun 2018, 14:32
auto bild is pretty reliable source. i believe the update is 0.5 sec faster
If the AutoBild is anything like the actual Bild, it is not reliable at all. Compare it to the Daily Mirror or the Sun...
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In other news, it looks like Hartley might be around for a few more races:

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/cana ... e-1045684/

He also seems to have Toro Rosso backing:

http://www.f1i.com/news/307121-hartley- ... atter.html

And finally, looks like he's finally igniting that determination and strong will to perform:

https://www.motorsportweek.com/news/id/18579

I have a hunch that finally we might actually see him put his 'nice boy' attitude aside and proof that he is fit for F1.

The next few races will either make or break his career in F1.

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Gasly's overtake on Magnussen =D>
https://imgur.com/KNE3k5K

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ArcticWolfie wrote:
12 Jun 2018, 22:25
Gasly's overtake on Magnussen =D>
https://imgur.com/KNE3k5K
HAHA MAG was like no more points off my super license :mrgreen:
rated.
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ArcticWolfie wrote:
12 Jun 2018, 22:25
Gasly's overtake on Magnussen =D>
https://imgur.com/KNE3k5K
Thanks for sharing! That was actually pretty impressive and the overtake was completely legit :)