I'm all for keeping it clean and the bashing to a professional minimum, however I find it ironic you are claiming to be innocent when you yourself take part in the bashing, mostly all pointed at Honda.Alonso Fan wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:15 pmI've stopped posting on here as often as I used to because quite frankly I've got a life and have better things to do. It's the same things over and over again, mclaren and Honda and EB's head and Capito this and Dennis that. No actual constructive technical discussion, the odd good post burried within rants of endless essays of bashing (most of it unwarranted and unnecessary, but some justified). A decent result and everyone shuts up. A retirement and everyone's back here screaming.
It's an absolute joke. I'm sure the mods could cut the size of this thread in half if they really wanted to
There is an actual difference between bashing and criticism and while I agree there is a lot of spiteful comments here, do you not think the criticism is deserved??? The team, no the company were absolutely rubbishing their engine partner, treating them like toe grit, while simultaneously claiming to have the best car on the grid. Apart from the blatant unprofessionalism as a corporate entity and complete lack of coming to the table and saying "hey you know what, we've got a few issues ourselves, let's sort this", it's now become evident that the absolute best they can manage is swapping it up in the midfield and only in the race.. qualifying they are nowhere. To some people on here, this team can do absolutely no wrong. But frankly I have not seen a positive sparkle in years and how the last couple of years have been handled and this angelic, innocent stance McLaren have attempted to take through it all has diminished a large amount of respect I have for them in general. Childish is a good word for how it's been handled.
We've got calls for past managers, we've got past directors all publicly commenting on the teams state of disarray, and Whitmarsh even giving an open invite to "approach me and I'll sort it out" but we've got a select few who comment saying stop criticising, they are fine, you're a basher, leave this forum etc etc.
Last year's car in the second half of the season was a regular in the points with 7th/8th/9th places, the record actually looks remarkably similar to this year's one so far, the reliability is at best sub par still, and the teams media reps are just flooding all outlets with photos of Toyota's LeMans win.. So no, I personally do not see "a drastic improvement" which a lot of the inner Honda bashers have been claiming and latching onto the 5th place in Aus. Remember we've had a retirement for the past 3 races now..
I can see the toxicity and it's bloody well ripe in here as well.