BMW M1 Procar revival at Hockenheim

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I have never heard of these, but there is an article on Formula1.com
Past masters to revive BMW M1 Procar at HockenheimThis season’s German Grand Prix will see the return of one of the most spectacular single-make competitions in motor racing history. The legendary BMW M1 Procar series will be resurrected at Hockenheim in July for a one-off special event.

The celebrated competition, which ran as a support series for Formula One racing in 1979 and 1980, saw the five fastest F1 drivers from Friday practice for the Grand Prix compete against 15 young hopefuls in specially prepared versions of BMW's M1 supercar.

“There hasn't been a series as attractive as this before or since,” recalled TV pundit Marc Surer, who conducted set-up work for the series’ prototypes as a young Formula Two driver. "With its mid-engined layout, the M1 was a bit of an animal to drive and had an outrageous soundtrack.

“The series fed off the appeal of the cars and the opportunity for young drivers to measure themselves against the leading Formula One stars at the time. You were really somebody if you got to drive in one of those races. It was a unique opportunity to pit your skills against the F1 drivers - and they were certainly pretty quick in the M1.

“The handling of the car suited them down to the ground. Plus, in 1979 - the first of the two years the series was held - they always started from the front and were given works cars. That made it pretty tough for us junior drivers in the independent teams. We had to look after our car, but at the same time did everything we could to make our mark.”

The series, the brainchild of Jochen Neerpasch, the head of BMW Motorsport at the time, Formula One Management CEO Bernie Ecclestone and FIA President Max Mosley, is still remembered fondly by fans, despite it’s brief two-year stint on the schedules. One admirer particularly heartened by its return is current BMW Motorsport director Dr Mario Theissen.

"The M1 was unveiled 30 years ago as the first car created independently by the then BMW Motorsport GmbH,” explained Theissen. “It was a racing car which BMW customers could also drive on the road, a unique project which had to overcome some tricky administrative hurdles before getting off the ground.

"In order to gain Group 4 homologation, 400 units of the super sports car had to be built within a period of 24 months. The idea of organising a single-make series was born out of necessity - i.e. the requirements of homologation. Nobody expected the BMW M1 Procar series to go down quite so well. Just a mention of it today still triggers an enthusiastic reaction. This revival serves as a 'thank you' to the fans.”

During July's event a smaller field of 10 drivers will compete in two show races. Amongst those competing will be several past masters including Surer, Jacques Laffite, Dieter Quester, Christian Danner, Harald Grohs and Prince Leopold of Bavaria.

German driver and team manager Jochen Neerpasch will also be in attendance, at the wheel of the BMW M1 turned into an 'Art Car' by legendary artist Andy Warhol. His co-driver will be 72 year-old American painter Frank Stella, who also created an 'Art Car' - a BMW 3.0 CSL which raced at Le Mans in 1976.
Some historical footage can be found here:

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=B ... itesearch=#

Wow, these cars sound amazing, and look pretty good for a car built the year I was born...:-P

I hope that there is going to be some TV coverage of this event, because I think it would be spectacular!

Chris

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If I recall correctly, you enjoy racing rFactor mods, right? Then check this :wink:

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looks like a bloody good series

[youtube]http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=B ... itesearch=#[/youtube]

the footage from Nürburgring Nordschleife is cool.
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I remember those races...I wonder if they plan to use the modern M1 concept at some point in the races....that would be sick!!!

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modbaraban wrote:If I recall correctly, you enjoy racing rFactor mods, right? Then check this :wink:
THANKS!!!

Unfortunately, the friend that I used to race rFactor with is no longer in my loop, but that is OK. I just need to pick up another G25 wheel (he kept mine), and buy my own copy of rFactor. At that point, my 142" HD projector with the 1000W surround sound should do nicely.

I dont know if my current HTPC will run it well however, it is a Sempron 3200 with a ATI HD2600 512MB video card and 2GB RAM, but it is worth trying!

And YES, these cars are SICK, and if there is a newer version of the M1, it is going to be a sight to behold!

Does ANYONE know if the Hockenheim M1 Procar race is going to televised?

Chris

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Conceptual wrote:
modbaraban wrote:If I recall correctly, you enjoy racing rFactor mods, right? Then check this :wink:
THANKS!!!

Unfortunately, the friend that I used to race rFactor with is no longer in my loop, but that is OK. I just need to pick up another G25 wheel (he kept mine), and buy my own copy of rFactor. At that point, my 142" HD projector with the 1000W surround sound should do nicely.

I dont know if my current HTPC will run it well however, it is a Sempron 3200 with a ATI HD2600 512MB video card and 2GB RAM, but it is worth trying!

And YES, these cars are SICK, and if there is a newer version of the M1, it is going to be a sight to behold!

Does ANYONE know if the Hockenheim M1 Procar race is going to televised?

Chris
It's the one on the left...word is that it will cost 180K


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there are very few things I would trade my Z for if any....this would probably be 1...although in a different color

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I'm confused. Are they to race the old version or the new one?

PS: and yes it does look G :shock: D!

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I agree that the car looks good, but I deffinately think that the designer had a case of "everything needs to be unique and eye catching, EVERYTHING!" That maay work for a full blown F1 racer, but I think for a street car, the new M1 is a bit much. It looks almost like a middle-school kids concept car in 8th grade drafting class!

But, as was stated already, I would DEFFINATELY trade my mini-van for it!

Chris

PS: If BMW wanted to increase sales in the US, they should contract Chip Foose to design a car for them. That man has the vision and the ability to reach into places and create absolutely amazing automobiles.

Ford has used him to modify a few of their production vehicles, and WOW did he deliver...

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Conceptual wrote:It looks almost like a middle-school kids concept car in 8th grade drafting class!
That's exactly how supercars should look! :D

BTW, if you replace the nostril-grille with the alfa romeo V-grille, the whole car would look like a normal alfa romeo :wink:

The only thing that looks overdone is rims design. I guess the rims shall be more conventional and smaller.

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Conceptual wrote:PS: If BMW wanted to increase sales in the US, they should contract Chip Foose to design a car for them. That man has the vision and the ability to reach into places and create absolutely amazing automobiles.

Ford has used him to modify a few of their production vehicles, and WOW did he deliver...
Maybe, but then BMW's would look american [-X #-o . And from what I've seen, pretty much all of what he does is lower the ride height and add huge wheel/tire combinations. Not exactly an original concept.

You could argue that Chris Bangle is American, but he has spent most of his professional automotive career in Europe. So that adds a lot more credibility as to whether he deserves to design european cars or not.

IMO, Ford can keep him as long as they want... :wink:
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mx_tifosi wrote:
Conceptual wrote:PS: If BMW wanted to increase sales in the US, they should contract Chip Foose to design a car for them. That man has the vision and the ability to reach into places and create absolutely amazing automobiles.

Ford has used him to modify a few of their production vehicles, and WOW did he deliver...
Maybe, but then BMW's would look american [-X #-o . And from what I've seen, pretty much all of what he does is lower the ride height and add huge wheel/tire combinations. Not exactly an original concept.
You could argue that Chris Bangle is American, but he has spent most of his professional automotive career in Europe. So that adds a lot more credibility as to whether he deserves to design european cars or not.

IMO, Ford can keep him as long as they want... :wink:
If that is all that you have seen, I can tell you that that you haven't seen much. I suggest a few episodes of "Overhaulin'" because his 7 day junker-to-top level showcar magic is very edvident.

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=o ... rch=&dur=3


I think Foose would be the perfect person, with his credibility in the US, to design a US BMW from the ground up. His attitude is great, and his work is thta of perfection.

Yes, if you think all he does is lower the cars, and add big wheels, then you ahve him mixed up with "Unique Auto" from "Unique Whips".

Chris

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Conceptual wrote:If that is all that you have seen, I can tell you that that you haven't seen much. I suggest a few episodes of "Overhaulin'" because his 7 day junker-to-top level showcar magic is very edvident.

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=o ... rch=&dur=3
Are you serious with this one? I though he was a car designer before I watched the video. I could as well claim that 'TopGear Engineering' can enter F1 by British GP 2008 :lol:
I guess that any of the car manufacturers take that pimp-my-ride-with-30inch-crome-rims-and-an-onboard-swimming-pool-in-the-boot styling seriously. You'd have to sell that car with custom numberplates, like LEW1S or something.

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'Conceptual',

Overhaulin is mainly what I have seen regarding his work, and that is exactly what backs my position. Most of his work does include lowering ride height and adding bling-bling wheels, along with adding 'tricked-out' interiors. Thats just showcar work, nothing else. To anyone in a professional automotive design position (which is dedicated to functional production models), I'm willing to bet that that doesn't mean much. So Chip might be able to modify or 'pimp out' but he most likely can't design a realistic production model. And at least we both know that his work does not include realistic elements.

And I'll repeat this once again, he would make BMW's look american, which is a no-no. :)

And this thread belongs in the 'Automotive' section, not the 'Formula One' section.
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mx_tifosi wrote:'Conceptual',

Overhaulin is mainly what I have seen regarding his work, and that is exactly what backs my position. Most of his work does include lowering ride height and adding bling-bling wheels, along with adding 'tricked-out' interiors. Thats just showcar work, nothing else. To anyone in a professional automotive design position (which is dedicated to functional production models), I'm willing to bet that that doesn't mean much. So Chip might be able to modify or 'pimp out' but he most likely can't design a realistic production model. And at least we both know that his work does not include realistic elements.

And I'll repeat this once again, he would make BMW's look american, which is a no-no. :)

And this thread belongs in the 'Automotive' section, not the 'Formula One' section.
Ford is releasing a line of Mustangs that are designed by Foose. I think that there is alot more going on with his work beyond lowering, and tricking. If you watch the episode of "Rides" where he does the "new" Thunderbird for Ford, you can see that lowering it and putting 1 off wheels takes a large back-seat to the custom windshield cutting, as well as redesigning the engine compartment, along with custom suspension components and hand made body panels.

I don't think that ANYTHING that Foose has done can be strictly called American, unless you are trying to equate his top quality product as American, and I, as an American, would beg to differ because American Made no longer is synonomous with Top Quality.

Its OK to hate however, and short-changing him simply because he is an American is your right as well, bigotry isn't illegal, so you are safe by showing it.

And this thread DOES belong here, since I started it to discuss the revival of this support series at the Hockenheim GP this year.

The tangent about Chip Foose, and your attempted discrediting of his ability, is over now, so I hope that you can see your way to not bring your awesome message board powers against him any longer, because a man of his fame and stature cannot withstand your world renowned opinion being against him much longer. I'm sure that you have put out his light of brilliance with your comments so far, so it is sincerely my hope that he can get over the ignorance of your opinion.

ON TOPIC:

Does anyone know for certain if it will be the 1979 cars in action, or if it is a NEW line of M1's that will hit the track at Hockenheim? And will the top 5 F1 drivers be driving them?

Thanks!

Chris