McLaren MCL33

[diffuser]

I don't buy that "less downforce than last year" argument.
I've been calculating average qualy laptime improvement for all teams and the following table is the result:
Renault: -1.700
Red Bull Racing: -1.528
McLaren: -1.499
Haas: -1.474
Sauber: -1.372
Ferrari: -1.093
Force India: -1.083
Mercedes: -0.835
Toro Rosso: -0.489
Williams: -0.196
They are on the top three and their laptime improvement is 80% better than Mercedes.
If it's true Mercedes has fully compensated the negative effects of the Halo, T-wing and Sharkfin, then why they have improve so little in comparison?

what's the difference ? less DF or didn't have as much as they expected ...whatever.

[PhillipM]

The suspension maybe adds 0.3 sec per lap if we’re being generous. If you see the photos above it clearly shows them struggling with the y250 and nose vortex which is why they’ve cut almost entire section of the inner flaps to text this weekend.

It shows nothing like, it just shows the flaps weren't fitted to the wing at the time, they bolt on, it's modular.

[M840TR]

The suspension maybe adds 0.3 sec per lap if we’re being generous. If you see the photos above it clearly shows them struggling with the y250 and nose vortex which is why they’ve cut almost entire section of the inner flaps to text this weekend.

It shows nothing like, it just shows the flaps weren't fitted to the wing at the time, they bolt on, it's modular.

Yup. But still a lot of testing with the y250 slots and cascades.

[GrayGreat]

I don't buy that "less downforce than last year" argument.
I've been calculating average qualy laptime improvement for all teams and the following table is the result:
Renault: -1.700
Red Bull Racing: -1.528
McLaren: -1.499
Haas: -1.474
Sauber: -1.372
Ferrari: -1.093
Force India: -1.083
Mercedes: -0.835
Toro Rosso: -0.489
Williams: -0.196
They are on the top three and their laptime improvement is 80% better than Mercedes.
If it's true Mercedes has fully compensated the negative effects of the Halo, T-wing and Sharkfin, then why they have improve so little in comparison?

You are ignoring the *cough* PU...

[NL_Fer]

I don't buy that "less downforce than last year" argument.
I've been calculating average qualy laptime improvement for all teams and the following table is the result:
Renault: -1.700
Red Bull Racing: -1.528
McLaren: -1.499
Haas: -1.474
Sauber: -1.372
Ferrari: -1.093
Force India: -1.083
Mercedes: -0.835
Toro Rosso: -0.489
Williams: -0.196
They are on the top three and their laptime improvement is 80% better than Mercedes.
If it's true Mercedes has fully compensated the negative effects of the Halo, T-wing and Sharkfin, then why they have improve so little in comparison?

They gained at least 50 bhp, Renault and Redbull also received a stronger PU.

[makecry]

I don't buy that "less downforce than last year" argument.
I've been calculating average qualy laptime improvement for all teams and the following table is the result:
Renault: -1.700
Red Bull Racing: -1.528
McLaren: -1.499
Haas: -1.474
Sauber: -1.372
Ferrari: -1.093
Force India: -1.083
Mercedes: -0.835
Toro Rosso: -0.489
Williams: -0.196
They are on the top three and their laptime improvement is 80% better than Mercedes.
If it's true Mercedes has fully compensated the negative effects of the Halo, T-wing and Sharkfin, then why they have improve so little in comparison?

Tires and better engine in itself would help. Not that hard to understand, unless you don't want to and you are trying to push a narrative

[M840TR]

New FW

[Jackles-UK]

New FW

https://cdn-4.motorsport.com/images/mgl ... t-wing.jpg

Interesting that you can see the floor of the garage through the nearest nose hole to the camera, confirming that it is just a very short hole rather than a complex duct as some had speculated

Also interesting to see they are applying green flo-vis to only the very bottom elements/underside of the FW rather than any of the mid/upper elements. Hints as to the areas their correlation is out?

[M840TR]

New FW

https://cdn-4.motorsport.com/images/mgl ... t-wing.jpg

Interesting that you can see the floor of the garage through the nearest nose hole to the camera, confirming that it is just a very short hole rather than a complex duct as some had speculated

Also interesting to see they are applying green flo-vis to only the very bottom elements/underside of the FW rather than any of the mid/upper elements. Hints as to the areas their correlation is out?

I think the photo is taken at an angle where it might seem that way otherwise the left nostril in not open from anywhere else but underneath the cape where it energizes the vortex. Flo-viz was applied on cascades/outer edge of FW, brakes and halo too.

[Xero]

McLaren testing a new t-wing over the rear wing. Very interesting!

[Marco Alves]

McLaren testing a new t-wing over the rear wing. Very interesting!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v356/ ... 111533.jpg

Is that legal?

[Xero]

It's off the car again. Guessing they're just testing a new rear wing shape as they attempt to get on top of their problems.

[wesley123]

Is that legal?

No.

It's off the car again. Guessing they're just testing a new rear wing shape as they attempt to get on top of their problems.

Probably adding DF, just like how Williams did in previous years.

[PhillipM]

That looks like they're having problems linking the upwash of the wing to the centre of the diffuser - hence the temporary part. Maybe with the lack of monkey seat and trouble up front meaning the floor isn't sealing well they're not driving each other as they expected.

[BrunoH]

testing, like they should, does not matter if its legal or not, they are not racing. as i said they should start and do the same but with 2019 in mind... the sooner they understand the 2019 aero, the better they can be on top of the problems. plus track testing is way more valuable than the CFD stuff,