2018 McLaren F1 Team - Renault

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diffuser
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Re: 2018 McLaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by diffuser » Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:03 am

McG wrote:
Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:04 pm
DFX wrote:
Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:16 pm
JohnDelinger wrote:
Tue Jul 10, 2018 11:04 am


i believe you are terribly misinformed, his talent has put him in the hunt for numerous titles
I think you are wasting your time in this argument. This is like trying to debate a 'flat-earther', they have all the science available to them but their position was already set beforehand. Your facts dont have weight against closed minds.
=D>

Your post also applies to those who have faith in any given team or cough cough engine manufacturer.

People can't seem to separate hope and fact from blind faith and delusion. Sad really on a technical forum.
Typically a fan's quality is measured by how likely he/she will continue to root to matter how unlikely they are to win.

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Re: 2018 McLaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by Zynerji » Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:08 am

I simply form my opinions of an athlete by their sportsmanship as well as their performances.

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Re: 2018 McLaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by M840TR » Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:31 am

Alonso's first lap in Silverstone. He overtook Ericsson and Gasly on track after Perez hit him and he ran wide in T1. Car's quite fast in high speed corners.

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Re: 2018 McLaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by munudeges » Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:17 am

RonDennis wrote:
Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:37 pm
He didn't say it wasn't his responsibility. Even the best people in the sport has made their mistakes, remember the McLaren that never run. Did that expose Newey? Acting like Paddy Lowe doesn't know what he's doing goes a bit far doesn't it.
Well, it is his responsibility, and this is not just a 'mistake'. This is a fundamental car problem that no TD should ever have allowed to happen.

You, like many, seem to be blissfully unaware of the situation this has put Williams in and how serious this is. They are off the back of the grid and if this continues at any length of time they are out of F1.

McG
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Re: 2018 McLaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by McG » Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:54 pm

I wonder why the McLaren threads year after year are the most popular by far. It's not a UK website is it?

McLaren are an interesting team and company though.

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Re: 2018 McLaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by trinidefender » Wed Jul 11, 2018 7:06 pm

McG wrote:
Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:54 pm
I wonder why the McLaren threads year after year are the most popular by far. It's not a UK website is it?

McLaren are an interesting team and company though.
Because people like drama the same why flies like s**t and McLaren is full of it

DFX
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Re: 2018 McLaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by DFX » Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:10 pm

trinidefender wrote:
Wed Jul 11, 2018 7:06 pm
McG wrote:
Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:54 pm
I wonder why the McLaren threads year after year are the most popular by far. It's not a UK website is it?

McLaren are an interesting team and company though.
Because people like drama the same why flies like s**t and McLaren is full of it
Not really, I would say that, among other things, this is the Alonso effect.

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Re: 2018 McLaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by McG » Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:54 pm

Guess back in the day it was the Hamilton effect.

DFX
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Re: 2018 McLaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by DFX » Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:09 pm

Well, from the traditional teams Mclaren is the more liked by long time fans. Ferrari has the glamour but Mclaren has (or had) the heart of what F1 means. But thats just my view.

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Re: 2018 McLaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by Miha_v » Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:32 pm

McG wrote:
Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:54 pm
I wonder why the McLaren threads year after year are the most popular by far. It's not a UK website is it?

McLaren are an interesting team and company though.
I have been a lurker on this forum for a while, specifically this thread :)
I guess I just want to see Mclaren improve and carefully scout for any sign of improvement (also, I was always really fascinated by f1 aerodynamics and so I find lots of interesting insights here). I wouldn't exactly consider myself biggest Alonso fan (haven't been a true fan of anybody since Mika Hakkinen departure really), but I believe he is a great driver and it's sad watching him battling in the midfield. I think many people (including me) want to see this combination succeed, hence the popularity...

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Re: 2018 McLaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by M840TR » Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:17 am

Between Lap 21 to lap 28, Alonso closed down a 6 second gap to Hulkenberg in the works Renault to 1.9 seconds. Alonso was 0.6 – 1 second faster than Hulkenberg.

Lap 28 is when Alonso caught up to Ocon and that slowed down his charge.

Between lap 21 to 27, he was on older medium tires veruss Ocon who was on fresh mediums and he was 0.5 seconds per lap faster than the Frenchman, and closed a 4 second gap to 0.5s seconds in 7 laps right before safety car.

This improved pace of the McLaren is perhaps enhanced by the high speed corners the clip above illustrates. At other circuits with low speed corners requiring good traction out of a turn, will perhaps be more of an Achilles heel for the MCL33.

Certainly the 2nd half of the season could be a good one for McLaren, and they should be the ones to watch out for pushing for 4th place in the constructors.
https://thejudge13.com/2018/07/11/not-s ... we-thought

Not knowing the reason for the car to be good in high speed corners but not in low speed ones is excruciating. Just chunks of laptime waiting to be unlocked.

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Re: 2018 McLaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by makecry » Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:33 am

M840TR wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:17 am
Between Lap 21 to lap 28, Alonso closed down a 6 second gap to Hulkenberg in the works Renault to 1.9 seconds. Alonso was 0.6 – 1 second faster than Hulkenberg.

Lap 28 is when Alonso caught up to Ocon and that slowed down his charge.

Between lap 21 to 27, he was on older medium tires veruss Ocon who was on fresh mediums and he was 0.5 seconds per lap faster than the Frenchman, and closed a 4 second gap to 0.5s seconds in 7 laps right before safety car.

This improved pace of the McLaren is perhaps enhanced by the high speed corners the clip above illustrates. At other circuits with low speed corners requiring good traction out of a turn, will perhaps be more of an Achilles heel for the MCL33.

Certainly the 2nd half of the season could be a good one for McLaren, and they should be the ones to watch out for pushing for 4th place in the constructors.
https://thejudge13.com/2018/07/11/not-s ... we-thought

Not knowing the reason for the car to be good in high speed corners but not in low speed ones is excruciating. Just chunks of laptime waiting to be unlocked.
LOL that is literally a word to word copy of this comment on reddit,

https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comme ... t/e26dcct/

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Re: 2018 McLaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by M840TR » Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:55 am

makecry wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:33 am
M840TR wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:17 am
Between Lap 21 to lap 28, Alonso closed down a 6 second gap to Hulkenberg in the works Renault to 1.9 seconds. Alonso was 0.6 – 1 second faster than Hulkenberg.

Lap 28 is when Alonso caught up to Ocon and that slowed down his charge.

Between lap 21 to 27, he was on older medium tires veruss Ocon who was on fresh mediums and he was 0.5 seconds per lap faster than the Frenchman, and closed a 4 second gap to 0.5s seconds in 7 laps right before safety car.

This improved pace of the McLaren is perhaps enhanced by the high speed corners the clip above illustrates. At other circuits with low speed corners requiring good traction out of a turn, will perhaps be more of an Achilles heel for the MCL33.

Certainly the 2nd half of the season could be a good one for McLaren, and they should be the ones to watch out for pushing for 4th place in the constructors.
https://thejudge13.com/2018/07/11/not-s ... we-thought

Not knowing the reason for the car to be good in high speed corners but not in low speed ones is excruciating. Just chunks of laptime waiting to be unlocked.
LOL that is literally a word to word copy of this comment on reddit,

https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comme ... t/e26dcct/
The site did seem a bit shady. Anyways, it is true through.

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Re: 2018 McLaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by PhillipM » Thu Jul 12, 2018 10:57 am

We expected that though, I said as much 2 or 3 races ago.
Hockenhiem might be a bit harder as there's a couple of heavy rear end/traction-limited area's from low speed, where mechanical traction is a big part of laptime.

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Re: 2018 McLaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by Alonso Fan » Thu Jul 12, 2018 11:02 am

And that's with a whole chunk of floor missing don't forget
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