2019 cars speculation

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What parts seen this year do you think will be picked up by more teams next year?

RB curved diffuser:

Morteza wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 7:13 pm
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STR slotted footplate:
Morteza wrote:
Thu Jun 28, 2018 3:50 pm
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Others:

Ferrari mirrors / flow through mirrors.
Complex noses like McLaren.
Conjoined rear suspension arms like McLaren.
McLaren flat underside FW.
RB protruding front suspension arms.

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Merc [Sauber] drop down front upper wishbone.

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I expect that even more teams adopt the 'RB curved diffuser' and we're going in to the third year of the Ferrari sidepod concept which will be interesting to see how much more you can push it and if more teams (especially Merc) will adopt the solution.
Not sure if the 'STR slotted footplate' will be legal with the new FW rules.

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The curved diffuser is certainly an interesting idea, I'm not sure they've gotten the most out of it just yet, those smooth contoured shapes have more potential and are also harder to develop numerically(ie CFD, or in the wind tunnel).
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Williams and FI have brought out the first 2019-spec FWs:
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Via SoyMotor.com
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2019-style wing for Red Bull too:
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I think that Red Bull wing is for Spa/Monza this year. It does not look wide enough for 2019. And it have some other parts not legal for 2019.

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senja wrote:
Tue Jul 31, 2018 12:30 pm
I think that Red Bull wing is for Spa/Monza this year. It does not look wide enough for 2019. And it have some other parts not legal for 2019.
Definitely not legal for 2019, but doesn’t look like a low-DF wing for fast tracks.
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Flow-viz of the Williams FW (AMuS):
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More images of the Williams wing:
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Non-watermarked photos by Gianluca D’Alessandro
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ScrewCaptain27 wrote:
Tue Jul 31, 2018 2:18 pm
senja wrote:
Tue Jul 31, 2018 12:30 pm
I think that Red Bull wing is for Spa/Monza this year. It does not look wide enough for 2019. And it have some other parts not legal for 2019.
Definitely not legal for 2019, but doesn’t look like a low-DF wing for fast tracks.
It's definitely this year wing. I don't see where they are going to use it, without cascades, if not in Spa and Monza.

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It's not going to be used, testing is used to understand governing effects of different car configurations - front wing without cascades in this case. Since they didn't want to invest time and money into making a preliminary 2019 FW design, they just took cascades off. It's very useful to do things one step at a time.
And they call it a stall. A STALL!

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I guess next year we'll be seeing more complicated bargeboards, mid-wings, and diffuser treatments, 'cause that's all the teams have left to tweak on. Development resources will shift there.

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Excellent close-up flow-viz shots of the Williams FW:
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Via FormulaPassion.it
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