2018 Scuderia Toro Rosso F1 Team - Honda

This forum contains threads to discuss teams themselves. Anything not technical about the cars, including restructuring, performances etc belongs here.
M840TR
147
Joined: Fri Apr 13, 2018 8:04 pm

Re: 2018 Scuderia Toro Rosso F1 Team - Honda

Post by M840TR » Thu Aug 09, 2018 7:27 pm

Big Tea wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:21 pm
M840TR wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 3:52 pm
Off season fun fact: Toro Rosso means Red Bull in Italian.
Bonus fact. It was originally called Red Gaur, or Krating Deng in Thai.
It means Red Gaur, which is the biggest bull in the world (2.2 mtr at the shoulder).


(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ri0XXjmiviM)
The drink, not the team.

Zynerji
42
Joined: Wed Jan 27, 2016 3:14 pm

Re: 2018 Scuderia Toro Rosso F1 Team - Honda

Post by Zynerji » Thu Aug 09, 2018 7:35 pm

Outside shot at Mick Schumacher?

Big Tea
38
User avatar
Joined: Sun Dec 24, 2017 7:57 pm

Re: 2018 Scuderia Toro Rosso F1 Team - Honda

Post by Big Tea » Thu Aug 09, 2018 7:36 pm

M840TR wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 7:27 pm
Big Tea wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:21 pm
M840TR wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 3:52 pm
Off season fun fact: Toro Rosso means Red Bull in Italian.
Bonus fact. It was originally called Red Gaur, or Krating Deng in Thai.
It means Red Gaur, which is the biggest bull in the world (2.2 mtr at the shoulder).


(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ri0XXjmiviM)
The drink, not the team.
Bull is Bull, who ever tells you :D
Can I make a 3D printer on my 3D printer?

dodds_turbo
7
User avatar
Joined: Wed Oct 29, 2014 9:45 pm

Re: 2018 Scuderia Toro Rosso F1 Team - Honda

Post by dodds_turbo » Thu Aug 09, 2018 10:26 pm

Zynerji wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 7:35 pm
Outside shot at Mick Schumacher?
Does he have enough points for a super license?

Big Tea
38
User avatar
Joined: Sun Dec 24, 2017 7:57 pm

Re: 2018 Scuderia Toro Rosso F1 Team - Honda

Post by Big Tea » Thu Aug 09, 2018 10:36 pm

dodds_turbo wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 10:26 pm
Zynerji wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 7:35 pm
Outside shot at Mick Schumacher?
Does he have enough points for a super license?
Not sure he has enough birthdays either.
Can I make a 3D printer on my 3D printer?

ME4ME
131
User avatar
Joined: Fri Dec 19, 2014 3:37 pm

Re: 2018 Scuderia Toro Rosso F1 Team - Honda

Post by ME4ME » Sat Aug 11, 2018 10:29 pm

Or talent.

Soichiro
12
Joined: Mon Jul 27, 2015 8:14 am

Re: 2018 Scuderia Toro Rosso F1 Team - Honda

Post by Soichiro » Sun Aug 12, 2018 7:02 am

Big Tea wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 10:36 pm
Zynerji wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 7:35 pm
Outside shot at Mick Schumacher?
Not sure he has enough birthdays either.
He is 19 now, older than Max was, so not too young anyway. Looking at his results, he is nothing special. If it wasn't for his surname, he probably would not get the attention.

Big Tea
38
User avatar
Joined: Sun Dec 24, 2017 7:57 pm

Re: 2018 Scuderia Toro Rosso F1 Team - Honda

Post by Big Tea » Sun Aug 12, 2018 9:39 am

Soichiro wrote:
Sun Aug 12, 2018 7:02 am
Big Tea wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 10:36 pm
Zynerji wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 7:35 pm
Outside shot at Mick Schumacher?
Not sure he has enough birthdays either.
He is 19 now, older than Max was, so not too young anyway. Looking at his results, he is nothing special. If it wasn't for his surname, he probably would not get the attention.
They brought the lower age limit in since though. I did not remember if it was 18,19 or 20
Can I make a 3D printer on my 3D printer?

super cool
-3
Joined: Sun Jul 29, 2018 5:21 pm

Re: 2018 Scuderia Toro Rosso F1 Team - Honda

Post by super cool » Tue Aug 14, 2018 12:22 pm

makecry wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 11:06 am
super cool wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 10:51 am
zoroastar wrote:
Wed Aug 08, 2018 4:55 pm


how does "toxic team and toxic teammate" account for him losing 17 straight qualifying sessions? thats a silly remark. f1 is all about performing under pressure. i like Stoffel a lot. hes probably a lot better than his results show, but it has nothing to do with a toxic work environment.
Alonso is the most skilled and experienced driver on the grid and there is no chance in hell even Riccardo could out-qualify him in the same car but that is besides the point. I think there is plenty of writing online as well as interviews how OCD is Alonso and how his work ethics kills the chemistry in the whole team (reason he was fired from Ferrari).

Being a 2nd driver for Alonso is game over for you pretty much, you can read how hard it is to work with him unless you work for him just like the whole team does right now. Vandoorne is currently not racing Alonso, he is racing for Alonso which not only means strategy but as well as mechanical setup, parts, quality of the car and so on. It's way too obvious on screen if you watch the race anyway, there is a clear line between driver's skills and then there is a clear difference on screen how Alsonso's car behaves and how Stoffel's car behaves.
Ferrari was trying to renew Alonso's contract till 2019. It's public knowledge, look it up.
Lets not stray way too off topic here but didn't that Ferrari management got sacked together with Alonso? Same thing is happening with McLaren right now.

Anyway I feel really bad for Alonso as he is the driver who has guts and mad skillz to surpass or match Schumi's record but everything went downhill after he left McLaren for the first time. Had he stayed he would have found himself in a much better place but instead it has been controversy after controversy surrounding him after he had left. It's a shame he has burnt that Honda bridge as that's most likely THE reason why RBR will not touch him for the next season. If anyone was going to park that next year RBR Honda car on the middle step of the podium that would have been Alonso. I don't give Max any chances at all let alone Gasly.

dren
226
User avatar
Joined: Wed Mar 03, 2010 1:14 pm

Re: 2018 Scuderia Toro Rosso F1 Team - Honda

Post by dren » Tue Aug 14, 2018 2:13 pm

Max is a proven race winner. If he has the car, he'll get wins.
Honda!

NathanOlder
104
User avatar
Joined: Fri Mar 02, 2012 9:05 am
Location: Kent

Re: 2018 Scuderia Toro Rosso F1 Team - Honda

Post by NathanOlder » Fri Aug 17, 2018 10:52 pm

dren wrote:
Tue Aug 14, 2018 2:13 pm
Max is a proven race winner. If he has the car, he'll get wins.
Its true, he's won as many races as Alesi, Panis , Maldonado and Kovalainen put together!

Or

The same as Eddie Irvine, and he nearly lucked in to a championship!
GoLandoGo
Lewis v2.0

Zynerji
42
Joined: Wed Jan 27, 2016 3:14 pm

Re: 2018 Scuderia Toro Rosso F1 Team - Honda

Post by Zynerji » Sun Aug 19, 2018 1:00 am

Any current driver can win if they have "the car" to do it...

HPD
224
User avatar
Joined: Thu Jun 30, 2016 3:06 pm

Re: 2018 Scuderia Toro Rosso F1 Team - Honda

Post by HPD » Sun Aug 19, 2018 12:40 pm


McHonda
15
Joined: Thu Apr 06, 2017 1:33 am

Re: 2018 Scuderia Toro Rosso F1 Team - Honda

Post by McHonda » Sun Aug 19, 2018 2:38 pm

super cool wrote:
Tue Aug 14, 2018 12:22 pm
makecry wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 11:06 am
super cool wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 10:51 am


Alonso is the most skilled and experienced driver on the grid and there is no chance in hell even Riccardo could out-qualify him in the same car but that is besides the point. I think there is plenty of writing online as well as interviews how OCD is Alonso and how his work ethics kills the chemistry in the whole team (reason he was fired from Ferrari).

Being a 2nd driver for Alonso is game over for you pretty much, you can read how hard it is to work with him unless you work for him just like the whole team does right now. Vandoorne is currently not racing Alonso, he is racing for Alonso which not only means strategy but as well as mechanical setup, parts, quality of the car and so on. It's way too obvious on screen if you watch the race anyway, there is a clear line between driver's skills and then there is a clear difference on screen how Alsonso's car behaves and how Stoffel's car behaves.
Ferrari was trying to renew Alonso's contract till 2019. It's public knowledge, look it up.
Lets not stray way too off topic here but didn't that Ferrari management got sacked together with Alonso? Same thing is happening with McLaren right now.

Anyway I feel really bad for Alonso as he is the driver who has guts and mad skillz to surpass or match Schumi's record but everything went downhill after he left McLaren for the first time. Had he stayed he would have found himself in a much better place but instead it has been controversy after controversy surrounding him after he had left. It's a shame he has burnt that Honda bridge as that's most likely THE reason why RBR will not touch him for the next season. If anyone was going to park that next year RBR Honda car on the middle step of the podium that would have been Alonso. I don't give Max any chances at all let alone Gasly.
No, Marco was trying to get him signed in the meeting they fell out in. Alonso wanted his gentleman's agreement with Luca that he could leave at the end of 2014 to stand with the new bosses and they wanted a show of commitment to the new regime by extending to the end of 2019. Even James Allison talked about trying to convince Alonso to change his mind.

There was no firing, as there isn't with McLaren now.

Snorked
43
Joined: Mon Mar 16, 2015 8:00 pm

Re: 2018 Scuderia Toro Rosso F1 Team - Honda

Post by Snorked » Sun Aug 19, 2018 4:55 pm

So a possible Vergne / Wehrlein lineup at the team next season.


Toro Rosso have offered Vergne a seat for 2019 according to veteran f1 reporter Roger Benoit - https://amp.blick.ch/sport/formel1/tran ... 42987.html


Wehrlein rumour seen on Autosport's silly season thread says:

https://forums.autosport.com/topic/2080 ... try8482808
Okay just heard from a reliable person that Wehrlein is being lined up to driver for TR and Merc will release him from DTM