Aston Martin Red Bull Racing TAG Heuer RB14

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Re: Aston Martin Red Bull Racing TAG Heuer RB14

Post by Sevach » Wed Aug 22, 2018 8:56 pm

Ferrari should copy this copy, open ended on one side and the cutout on the other.

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Re: Aston Martin Red Bull Racing TAG Heuer RB14

Post by roon » Wed Aug 22, 2018 9:10 pm

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Re: Aston Martin Red Bull Racing TAG Heuer RB14

Post by zibby43 » Wed Aug 22, 2018 10:36 pm

roon wrote:
Wed Aug 22, 2018 8:19 pm
Always with the next level stuff, this team. Put a Merc or Ferrari engine in this chassis; we all know what the answer would be.
I'm asking this genuinely and not trying to be facetious or sarcastic, but if that's the case, why is this year's RB typically nowhere in the rain? Rain helps to mitigate PU advantages, as it becomes even more difficult to put the power down, no?

As a total package: suspension kinematics, aero efficiency, etc., I don't think Red Bull is quite there. Which isn't a dig at Red Bull; it shows the incredible levels of development at the top 2 teams.

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Re: Aston Martin Red Bull Racing TAG Heuer RB14

Post by PhillipM » Wed Aug 22, 2018 10:56 pm

We know where it would be if you dropped the Merc into it, nowhere, because the packaging would go to ---.

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Re: Aston Martin Red Bull Racing TAG Heuer RB14

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Re: Aston Martin Red Bull Racing TAG Heuer RB14

Post by FPV GTHO » Thu Aug 23, 2018 12:27 am

zibby43 wrote:
Wed Aug 22, 2018 10:36 pm
roon wrote:
Wed Aug 22, 2018 8:19 pm
Always with the next level stuff, this team. Put a Merc or Ferrari engine in this chassis; we all know what the answer would be.
I'm asking this genuinely and not trying to be facetious or sarcastic, but if that's the case, why is this year's RB typically nowhere in the rain? Rain helps to mitigate PU advantages, as it becomes even more difficult to put the power down, no?

As a total package: suspension kinematics, aero efficiency, etc., I don't think Red Bull is quite there. Which isn't a dig at Red Bull; it shows the incredible levels of development at the top 2 teams.
The spray off the tyres still messed with the aero. If teams suddenly start performing diffetently in the rain its probably indicative of different methods to managing the tyre wake

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Re: Aston Martin Red Bull Racing TAG Heuer RB14

Post by Just_a_fan » Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:07 am

FPV GTHO wrote:
Thu Aug 23, 2018 12:27 am

The spray off the tyres still messed with the aero. If teams suddenly start performing diffetently in the rain its probably indicative of different methods to managing the tyre wake
Not sure we've heard that excuse before! :lol:

RedBull, like everyone else, send front tyre wake as far out as they can - especially important with their high rake car where the tyre wake could have huge effects if they let it go under the rear.

More likely is one of these:
1. The drivers aren't as good in the wet
2. The car doesn't get/keep the inters/wets in their operating window
3. The chassis is to "pointy" in the dry which makes it tricky in the wet
4. The engine's power delivery isn't as driveable in the wet as other engines.
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Re: Aston Martin Red Bull Racing TAG Heuer RB14

Post by TwanV » Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:28 am

VES feedback was point 2. Apparently the RB14 has trouble getting the tires in the proper operating window (too cool). They have the same issue on SC-restarts apparently.

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Re: Aston Martin Red Bull Racing TAG Heuer RB14

Post by seezung » Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:37 am

Amus Mirrors:

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Re: Aston Martin Red Bull Racing TAG Heuer RB14

Post by Morteza » Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:48 am

Are the mirrors angled outwards or it's my eyes playing with me? In the first photo, I mean.
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Re: Aston Martin Red Bull Racing TAG Heuer RB14

Post by Morteza » Thu Aug 23, 2018 10:08 am

Better shots of the rear wing
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Re: Aston Martin Red Bull Racing TAG Heuer RB14

Post by lio007 » Thu Aug 23, 2018 11:36 am

lio007 wrote:
Wed Jul 04, 2018 8:32 pm
When did they revert back to last years suspension internals?

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ScrewCaptain27 wrote:
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Front suspension internals (via Scarbs):
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New, Austria(Thursday):
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Now they have again new (or lets say different) suspension components!

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Re: Aston Martin Red Bull Racing TAG Heuer RB14

Post by F1NAC » Thu Aug 23, 2018 1:10 pm

Morteza wrote:
Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:48 am
Are the mirrors angled outwards or it's my eyes playing with me? In the first photo, I mean.
Those supports are solely for structural purpose... right. Ridiculous

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Re: Aston Martin Red Bull Racing TAG Heuer RB14

Post by Pramesi » Thu Aug 23, 2018 1:37 pm

Morteza wrote:
Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:48 am
Are the mirrors angled outwards or it's my eyes playing with me? In the first photo, I mean.
I think it looks outwardly-angled because it's missing the inner sides of the housing that are present in other designs like Ferrari's.

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Re: Aston Martin Red Bull Racing TAG Heuer RB14

Post by MtthsMlw » Thu Aug 23, 2018 1:56 pm

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