That's absolutely ridiculous.GrandAxe wrote: ↑08 Sep 2018, 03:29Over the top celebration is bad for the health of F1, whether it's Ferrari at Silverstone or Merc at Monza.
If fan's now boo and teams now poke fingers in each others eye, then it won't be long before there's a full on brawl somewhere (verbal or physical). Teams should be more reserved to control the fans.
It's not just the booing. I am actually okay with that. I saw some ridiculous posters of Lewis and it felt like 'hate.' That is not cool. No matter who it is.Phil wrote: ↑08 Sep 2018, 02:44To be fair, Monza is Ferrari. It’s not like any of the other venues can be attributed to a singular team, unlike Monza/Ferrari. And I’d also say that most of the Tifosis are fans of Ferrari, not the drivers.
Just saying. I am not justifying that the booing is right, just putting some context to it.
Thank you.nevill3 wrote: ↑07 Sep 2018, 17:51Restomaniac wrote: ↑07 Sep 2018, 17:50And for those of us who don’t speak Italian?Gr1ff wrote: ↑06 Sep 2018, 21:53
Translate what Sebastian said in the radio message after the British gp and you will see why they did that in Italy.
https://youtu.be/6rfvd7dmyjQIs the translationthanks guys here at their home...
now we bring the English flag to Maranello
Besides, its advertising. That is why they, and Ferrari,Renault Honda, and anyone else is in F1.Restomaniac wrote: ↑08 Sep 2018, 11:46Thank you.
Seems rather personal.
Also with regard to others about the formation driving. They got the living hell booed out of them last year for nothing more than just having the brass neck of winning. They knew damn well what was coming in the podium agin this year when they got a 1-3. Hardly surprising they got it in first.
What are you talking about? My post concerns the behaviour of the teams and how it might affect future fan behaviour.Ringleheim wrote: ↑08 Sep 2018, 05:35That's absolutely ridiculous.GrandAxe wrote: ↑08 Sep 2018, 03:29Over the top celebration is bad for the health of F1, whether it's Ferrari at Silverstone or Merc at Monza.
If fan's now boo and teams now poke fingers in each others eye, then it won't be long before there's a full on brawl somewhere (verbal or physical). Teams should be more reserved to control the fans.
Most of the fans at Monza are there to cheer on Ferrari, and no one else.
Get over it.
But its going the way of football; slowly but surely creeping toward football style. There's an atmosphere of disrespect in F1 that just keeps growing year on year. Radio messages (in effect, messages to the public) about "showing our Italian colleagues" or taking the British flag to Maranello only further stir the pot.NathanOlder wrote: ↑08 Sep 2018, 15:07I personally don't think there is anything wrong with a rivalry in this nature. It adds a little spice and makes winning that much sweeter.
Like the rivalries in Boxing. Can get a little spiteful but makes the build up and fight that much better and after it all they are normally friends. I think if it went like football it may be a little too much.
The Monza grand prix is a little like an away game in football. If you're not wearing the home kit (ferrari) you get booed.
Mercedes drivers got booing on the podium on 2017. Their massive error for it? They beat the Ferraris.GrandAxe wrote: ↑08 Sep 2018, 16:20But its going the way of football; slowly but surely creeping toward football style. There's an atmosphere of disrespect in F1 that just keeps growing year on year. Radio messages (in effect, messages to the public) about "showing our Italian colleagues" or taking the British flag to Maranello only further stir the pot.NathanOlder wrote: ↑08 Sep 2018, 15:07I personally don't think there is anything wrong with a rivalry in this nature. It adds a little spice and makes winning that much sweeter.
Like the rivalries in Boxing. Can get a little spiteful but makes the build up and fight that much better and after it all they are normally friends. I think if it went like football it may be a little too much.
The Monza grand prix is a little like an away game in football. If you're not wearing the home kit (ferrari) you get booed.
Sure, I enjoyed Lewis and Bottas parade lap as a Merc / Lewis fan, but the radio message soured it all.
As another aspect of the growing disrespect, take Vettels fowl mouthed tirade against the stewards a couple of years ago - at the time it was unprecedented and shocking. But, fast forward to this year and repercussions for such behaviour are almost nonexistent - from Charlie Whitings words, Max might not even get a ticking for his version last race.
Really !?GrandAxe wrote: ↑08 Sep 2018, 16:20.. take Vettels fowl mouthed tirade against the stewards a couple of years ago - at the time it was unprecedented and shocking. But, fast forward to this year and repercussions for such behaviour are almost nonexistent - from Charlie Whitings words, Max might not even get a ticking for his version last race.
A lot of that radio message was censored. I think you'll be censored too if you posted the beeped out part here.langedweil wrote: ↑08 Sep 2018, 19:54Really !?GrandAxe wrote: ↑08 Sep 2018, 16:20.. take Vettels fowl mouthed tirade against the stewards a couple of years ago - at the time it was unprecedented and shocking. But, fast forward to this year and repercussions for such behaviour are almost nonexistent - from Charlie Whitings words, Max might not even get a ticking for his version last race.
How on earth was that even near offensive?
I’d say “They're doing a great job at killing racing” (100% agreed from my pov) sounds a whole lot more eloquent than “You know what, f*** Charlie !!”
But that might just be my interpretation ..