2018 Japanese Grand Prix - Suzuka, 5-7 October

[godlameroso]

You can't, a human in a flow state is almost unstoppable.

[vanburin]

It might not yet be goodnight Ferrari from Merc in Suzuka.

Whilst denying that the second sensor has slowed them down, Arrivabene claimed that Ferrari was faster than Mercedes in Singapore and at par with them in Russia. If the car is still super, then it must be the team that is failing.

“In the straight, we were absolutely ahead in Singapore, and in Russia, we were more or less like Mercedes in the straight. Where we lost was in the slow speed corners,” Arrivabene said.

https://www.crash.net/f1/news/906891/1/ ... erformance

To be fair, what else would he really say? They asked him directly about Ferrari's straightline speed and how it coincides with the introduction of further monitoring by the FIA, he wouldn't publicly admit there is a direct cause and effect.

It is truly remarkable how far Ferrari have fallen, however. But equal amounts of praise should be offered to Mercedes.

[ferkan]

It might not yet be goodnight Ferrari from Merc in Suzuka.

Whilst denying that the second sensor has slowed them down, Arrivabene claimed that Ferrari was faster than Mercedes in Singapore and at par with them in Russia. If the car is still super, then it must be the team that is failing.

“In the straight, we were absolutely ahead in Singapore, and in Russia, we were more or less like Mercedes in the straight. Where we lost was in the slow speed corners,” Arrivabene said.

https://www.crash.net/f1/news/906891/1/ ... erformance

To be fair, what else would he really say? They asked him directly about Ferrari's straightline speed and how it coincides with the introduction of further monitoring by the FIA, he wouldn't publicly admit there is a direct cause and effect.

It is truly remarkable how far Ferrari have fallen, however. But equal amounts of praise should be offered to Mercedes.

Yea incredible really. Merc went from being incredibly weak in slow speed corners to being the best (better then RB and better then Ferrari by far). Either someone turned of the trick, or someone learned the trick.

[Sieper]

they have a trick car!

It might be a question of both.

[F1NAC]

You can't, a human in a flow state is almost unstoppable.

There is always good old

KURBELWELLENLAGER

[MtthsMlw]

https://streamable.com/ok4rk

I wonder what can possibly stop this guy. Especially when he's that happy.

Put him in the McLaren

[digitalrurouni]

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/vett ... y/3189200/

So Seb is saying and it looks that is indeed the case that Ferrari is not being kind to its tires. I am wondering why this has started to happen all of a sudden. I mean wasn't Ferrari known to be supremely kind to its tires and not really that temperature dependent of the track? Did they perhaps developmentally go the wrong way somehow? It's one thing to not have that amazing mid straight acceleration boost but their low speed corner traction and being kind to the tires seemed unparalleled...and now this? How has the Ferrari team imploded like this I will not understand. Kind of silly of Merc to deny Bottas that win in Sochi when Ferrari is ailing so much.

[Shakeman]

Yea incredible really. Merc went from being incredibly weak in slow speed corners to being the best (better then RB and better then Ferrari by far). Either someone turned of the trick, or someone learned the trick.

Toto said they learned a lot at Spa and they're now running the car setup very differently and it unlocked a shed load of potential which they are now reaping while looking after the tyres too.

[LM10]

It might not yet be goodnight Ferrari from Merc in Suzuka.

Whilst denying that the second sensor has slowed them down, Arrivabene claimed that Ferrari was faster than Mercedes in Singapore and at par with them in Russia. If the car is still super, then it must be the team that is failing.




https://www.crash.net/f1/news/906891/1/ ... erformance

To be fair, what else would he really say? They asked him directly about Ferrari's straightline speed and how it coincides with the introduction of further monitoring by the FIA, he wouldn't publicly admit there is a direct cause and effect.

It is truly remarkable how far Ferrari have fallen, however. But equal amounts of praise should be offered to Mercedes.

Yea incredible really. Merc went from being incredibly weak in slow speed corners to being the best (better then RB and better then Ferrari by far). Either someone turned of the trick, or someone learned the trick.

For whatever reason, Ferrari is extremely struggling right now. They are nowhere being as competitive as they’ve been on slow speed corners, traction, tyre management, set up etc.
And RedBull already stopped developing their car months ago.

Mercedes surely found something and developed on traction side. But at the same time their main opponents clearly lost something.

[djones]

Maybe Ferrari are having tyre issues (in the last few races) as they are having to run less engine power, and therefore less wing?

[MtthsMlw]

Maybe Ferrari are having tyre issues (in the last few races) as they are having to run less engine power, and therefore less wing?

They ran even more wing than planned in Sochi and still struggled with the tyres.

[siskue2005]

https://streamable.com/ok4rk

I wonder what can possibly stop this guy. Especially when he's that happy.

Put him in the McLaren

he will enjoy it either way... all the driver love this track, especially this year with faster car it is challenging to drive an actual track with gravel traps and fast corners. even i enjoy this track in ASSETO Corsa in all types of cars...it is simply awesome

[godlameroso]

I can't get the F2017 to go under 1:30, how do they do 1:26 IRL?

[Phil]

They ran even more wing than planned in Sochi and still struggled with the tyres.

But how much wing did they run? Or in other words, how much more than Mercedes?

Given how RedBull have seemingly gotten closer to Ferrari, I would guess that Ferrari have gone backwards rather than Mercedes forwards. Perhaps Mercedes did make some gain, in the sense that they have sorted out their tire issues.

At the beginning of the year, I felt the Mercedes had the best package, but was limited by tires. They performed well on the harder compounds, but had trouble controlling the temperature and thus performance of the softer compounds. One of the turn around was when they got to Canada and Pirelli brought the "special tires" and what followed after.

But then, just as Mercedes got to grips with tires, Ferrari started to make huge gains in especially engine performance, which suddenly showed them to be superior on the straights, while just being close enough in the corners too. This advantage seems to have disappeared again to the point, I think we are back to Mercedes being ahead again, but without them being limited by tires.

[TAG]

The FiA is looking closer at something they weren't before. Nothing else IMO would explain Ferarri's backward's slide.