2018 Japanese Grand Prix - Suzuka, 5-7 October

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Re: 2018 Japanese Grand Prix - Suzuka, 5-7 October

Post by PlatinumZealot » Sun Oct 07, 2018 8:18 am

Vettel wiping tears from his eyes in the interview. He realises it's over now.
"The true champions are also great men. They are capable of making difficult decisions, of admitting their mistakes and of pushing harder than before when they get up from a fall."

- Ferrari chairman Sergio Marchionne

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Re: 2018 Japanese Grand Prix - Suzuka, 5-7 October

Post by F1NAC » Sun Oct 07, 2018 8:18 am

GPR -A wrote:
Sun Oct 07, 2018 8:05 am
Happy to see "Wannabe Verstappen" Magnussen make that move and get screwed. That guy deserves it every single race.
But leclerc also got screwed :(

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Re: 2018 Japanese Grand Prix - Suzuka, 5-7 October

Post by Restomaniac » Sun Oct 07, 2018 8:20 am

Jolle wrote:
Sun Oct 07, 2018 8:17 am
zeph wrote:
Sun Oct 07, 2018 8:13 am
Restomaniac wrote:
Sun Oct 07, 2018 8:07 am
Vettel is blaming Verstappen. Amazingballs :o
I see his point, though.

But no, Vettel was never gonna make that stick.
self reflection in public has never been one of this things.
Which is his issue. I get the ‘racing driver’ thing but sometimes you surely HAVE to see it.
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Re: 2018 Japanese Grand Prix - Suzuka, 5-7 October

Post by sosic2121 » Sun Oct 07, 2018 8:20 am

NathanOlder wrote:
Sun Oct 07, 2018 7:48 am
sosic2121 wrote:
Sun Oct 07, 2018 7:45 am
NathanOlder wrote:
Sun Oct 07, 2018 7:38 am


So Sauber never help Ferrari , is that what your saying?
No, I just said you should "sweep in front of your doors" before you start finger pointing
I know Ocon got out the way and I have nothing against Sauber getting out the way,
I'm just pointing out that Sauber were jumping out the way, something that someone else was denying a few weeks back. Nothing against you my friend.
I'm sorry if I was "too aggressive".
I believe Ericsson was holding Vettel for 2 laps, while Leclerc moved straight away.
So maybe it's not a Sauber thing, but Ferrari driver thing.
On the other hand, Ocon is Mercedes driver, so same logic can be applied.

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Re: 2018 Japanese Grand Prix - Suzuka, 5-7 October

Post by zeph » Sun Oct 07, 2018 8:21 am

Jolle wrote:
Sun Oct 07, 2018 8:17 am
zeph wrote:
Sun Oct 07, 2018 8:13 am
Restomaniac wrote:
Sun Oct 07, 2018 8:07 am
Vettel is blaming Verstappen. Amazingballs :o
I see his point, though.

But no, Vettel was never gonna make that stick.
self reflection in public has never been one of this things, like many drivers by the way.
He’s not wrong about Verstappen, though. He got squeezed, not cool. But he shouldn’t have tried to overtake there.

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Re: 2018 Japanese Grand Prix - Suzuka, 5-7 October

Post by timbo » Sun Oct 07, 2018 8:26 am

zeph wrote:
Sun Oct 07, 2018 8:21 am
He’s not wrong about Verstappen, though. He got squeezed, not cool. But he shouldn’t have tried to overtake there.
In the hindsight, yes. But he overtook Grosjean there just a little earlier. Ferrari had very good acceleration between the hairpin and the Spoon corner.

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Re: 2018 Japanese Grand Prix - Suzuka, 5-7 October

Post by Sieper » Sun Oct 07, 2018 8:28 am

He is wrong, he had no business making such a last minute lurch. Should have preserved his full battery, tug in through 130r, make sure you get a good exit on the chicane and battery boost passed Max on the straight. He had all the cards and blow it. Just like I Monza where he wanted to take Kimi and Instead got taken by Hamilton.

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Re: 2018 Japanese Grand Prix - Suzuka, 5-7 October

Post by Restomaniac » Sun Oct 07, 2018 8:30 am

‘Insanity-Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results’ C/O Albert Einstein.

There is NO way that move on Verstappen was going to end any other way. How many times have they come together now? Of all the drivers Vettel needs to realise that Verstappen is going to give him no quarter.
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Re: 2018 Japanese Grand Prix - Suzuka, 5-7 October

Post by Jolle » Sun Oct 07, 2018 8:30 am

zeph wrote:
Sun Oct 07, 2018 8:21 am
Jolle wrote:
Sun Oct 07, 2018 8:17 am
zeph wrote:
Sun Oct 07, 2018 8:13 am


I see his point, though.

But no, Vettel was never gonna make that stick.
self reflection in public has never been one of this things, like many drivers by the way.
He’s not wrong about Verstappen, though. He got squeezed, not cool. But he shouldn’t have tried to overtake there.
Making half a overtake trying to stick in a corner where it isn't really possible. Vettel made his move while Verstappen already had his line and gave him a bit of space. It was very very clumsy of Vettel once again. The last few seasons every time its car to car, whoever he is racing, he makes these half stick moves. First of, it would help if he stopped blaming everybody. Just his year he's been hitting Hamilton, Verstappen, Bottas...

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Re: 2018 Japanese Grand Prix - Suzuka, 5-7 October

Post by AnthonyG » Sun Oct 07, 2018 8:44 am

Verstappen was regenerating battery just before the corner, Vettel wasn't and made a reasonable move imo. I think Verstappen at least carries some blame because he knew Vettel would be on his tail when he was regenerating energy.
Thank you really doesn't really describe enough what I feel. - Vettel

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Re: 2018 Japanese Grand Prix - Suzuka, 5-7 October

Post by iotar__ » Sun Oct 07, 2018 8:45 am

Raikkonen is just slow. Well done Ferrari, losing to Ricciardo :oops: .

Haas - strategy morons again, how is Steiner keeping his job? Nevermind VSC after car parked far and safely. Why not a full one and pitstop drive through?

Commentators faking excitement when Ferraris and RBs were passing by (not overtaking!) cars. You CAN overtake in F1. Yeah, X seconds slower cars... Slow mo replays of this farce too.

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Re: 2018 Japanese Grand Prix - Suzuka, 5-7 October

Post by zeph » Sun Oct 07, 2018 8:54 am

How the mighty have fallen...

McLaren and Williams dead last. The end of an era.

This is the age of Horner and Wolff.

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Re: 2018 Japanese Grand Prix - Suzuka, 5-7 October

Post by timbo » Sun Oct 07, 2018 9:21 am

zeph wrote:
Sun Oct 07, 2018 8:54 am
How the mighty have fallen...

McLaren and Williams dead last. The end of an era.
Yeah, reminds me of Lotus and Tyrrell.
:(
Hope they can reverse the situation, but just how?

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Re: 2018 Japanese Grand Prix - Suzuka, 5-7 October

Post by Sieper » Sun Oct 07, 2018 9:30 am

By going down the haas and Sauber route.

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Re: 2018 Japanese Grand Prix - Suzuka, 5-7 October

Post by F1NAC » Sun Oct 07, 2018 9:38 am

50 wins for Lewis... In a Mercedes only... I would like to see him in a dog of a car at least 1 season before he retires.