What is seamless gear box???

All that has to do with the power train, gearbox, clutch, fuels and lubricants, etc. Generally the mechanical side of Formula One.
Conceptual
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HKS wrote:
Conceptual wrote:I personally don't mind, but I cannot see Tomba feeling good about putting all of the work into this site, just to have someone have a signature that promotes a rival site, and is constantly linking topics with the intent of bleeding traffic to it.

I have seen people banned on other sites for doing this this, and I feel that it is disrespectful to f1technical.net.

But in the end, it is not my site, so not my say.

Chris
I have removed the signature as well.

I'm here not for promotion. I'm here coz I'm fond of this website. anyways I have even removed the link as well.
A credit to your virtue, even if no one else says so. Respect +1

Chris

alelanza
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Conceptual wrote:
alelanza wrote:
scarbs wrote:Contrary to popular belief most seamless shifts do not use Zeroshift or any clever dog ring set ups. Nor does the power remain uninterrupted (i.e. no full throttle full engine load shifts). In fact the shift is simply controlled by two selector drums, each operating alternate gears. Thus the engagement of the next gear can be progressing as the old gear is disengaged, this can occur as the engine\gearbox load is momentarily eased with a ignition\throttle cut and clutch disengaged. In a normal gearbox the adjoining gears are controlled by a single selector, thus the old gear has to be disengaged before the selector can engage the next gear. Reducing this undriven time is where the "seamless" element is brought in and saves time on shifts. This seamless shift is only possible with highly accurate hydraulics and electronics, one timing error and the gearbox goes kablam..! The SECU's introduction is believed to be responsible for some winter gearbox woes.
Interesting. Can’t say that i have fully understood your explanation, language barrier perhaps, will read from home again. Nevertheless I did come across similar answers to yours while looking for data, but I never found any references that would confirm/deny the system that is used, except that last f1racing pdf that I pasted. On the other hand, if zeroshift was used I would also expect their website to make a point out of that. Do you have any links/references to confirm the system you describe?
Many thanks!
LOL!

http://scarbsf1.com/transmissions.html

Scarbs, maybe you whould update your page with the seamless gearbox design?

Chris
Nice link! i'll definitely be reading scarbs work, looks top notch. However like you say it does not contain seamless shift info.
Regards!
Alejandro L.

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alelanza wrote:
Nice link! i'll definitely be reading scarbs work, looks top notch. However like you say it does not contain seamless shift info.
Regards!
Scarbs is our local insider... :-P

That is why it is funny to see a new person question his credibility!

Chris

alelanza
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Conceptual wrote:
alelanza wrote:
Nice link! i'll definitely be reading scarbs work, looks top notch. However like you say it does not contain seamless shift info.
Regards!
Scarbs is our local insider... :-P

That is why it is funny to see a new person question his credibility!

Chris
I don't think asking for references equals questioning his credibility, and i really hope he doesn't see it that way. It's obvious from the link you sent that he's 100 times more knowleadgeable than i am, but i'm sure he didn't get there by just trusting what other people said w/o asking more questions ;)
If he were to let me know that he felt i was questioning his credibility or being offensive in any way, i'll be more than happy to offer my apologies to him.
Alejandro L.