McLaren MCL33

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The rain often magnifies the aero workings of the car nicely. Here the sidepod downwash is quite visible.
I wonder if they could add a few more vortex generators like they did this year.

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i always thought the packaging didnt look to bad, very low compared to the other solutions, but somehow something doesnt work
from this weekend
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f1rules wrote:
Fri Oct 26, 2018 8:25 am
i always thought the packaging didnt look to bad, very low compared to the other solutions, but somehow something doesnt work
from this weekend
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DqatRhcWkAAB8V3.jpg:large
It's quite clever indeed. Just bad aero wise.

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Posted twice already.

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M840TR wrote:
Fri Oct 26, 2018 10:04 am
Posted twice already.
#-o

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M840TR wrote:
Fri Oct 26, 2018 8:42 am
f1rules wrote:
Fri Oct 26, 2018 8:25 am
i always thought the packaging didnt look to bad, very low compared to the other solutions, but somehow something doesnt work
from this weekend
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DqatRhcWkAAB8V3.jpg:large
It's quite clever indeed. Just bad aero wise.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with it. It is actually excellent aero wise ...except that it was designed for a Honda PU that has the turbo on top. They just took a chassis that had already been designed to fit a Honda PU and stuck a Renault in it. They didn't have time to do much more than stick it in and get it to work. Kind of like giving a pair of running shoes with High arc support to a FLAT footed person. They work and yes very high tech. They hurt like hell and surely aren't gonna help you run faster.

The more I think about this the more I think that this has all been planned from last year(Firings and all). Maybe not as a plan A but as a plan B.

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diffuser wrote:
Sat Oct 27, 2018 3:12 pm
M840TR wrote:
Fri Oct 26, 2018 8:42 am
f1rules wrote:
Fri Oct 26, 2018 8:25 am
i always thought the packaging didnt look to bad, very low compared to the other solutions, but somehow something doesnt work
from this weekend
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DqatRhcWkAAB8V3.jpg:large
It's quite clever indeed. Just bad aero wise.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with it. It is actually excellent aero wise ...except that it was designed for a Honda PU that has the turbo on top. They just took a chassis that had already been designed to fit a Honda PU and stuck a Renault in it. They didn't have time to do much more than stick it in and get it to work. Kind of like giving a pair of running shoes with High arc support to a FLAT footed person. They work and yes very high tech. They hurt like hell and surely aren't gonna help you run faster.

The more I think about this the more I think that this has all been planned from last year(Firings and all). Maybe not as a plan A but as a plan B.
Mechanical issues aside, how is that good aero when it blocks air to the diffuser and clears it to the RW. That's just begging for drag.

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M840TR wrote:
Sat Oct 27, 2018 3:23 pm
diffuser wrote:
Sat Oct 27, 2018 3:12 pm
M840TR wrote:
Fri Oct 26, 2018 8:42 am


It's quite clever indeed. Just bad aero wise.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with it. It is actually excellent aero wise ...except that it was designed for a Honda PU that has the turbo on top. They just took a chassis that had already been designed to fit a Honda PU and stuck a Renault in it. They didn't have time to do much more than stick it in and get it to work. Kind of like giving a pair of running shoes with High arc support to a FLAT footed person. They work and yes very high tech. They hurt like hell and surely aren't gonna help you run faster.

The more I think about this the more I think that this has all been planned from last year(Firings and all). Maybe not as a plan A but as a plan B.
Mechanical issues aside, how is that good aero when it blocks air to the diffuser and clears it to the RW. That's just begging for drag.
Well, I was talking about the PU packaging..obviously you're talking about the package as a whole. Sorry my Bad.

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diffuser wrote:
Sat Oct 27, 2018 3:25 pm
M840TR wrote:
Sat Oct 27, 2018 3:23 pm
diffuser wrote:
Sat Oct 27, 2018 3:12 pm


There is absolutely nothing wrong with it. It is actually excellent aero wise ...except that it was designed for a Honda PU that has the turbo on top. They just took a chassis that had already been designed to fit a Honda PU and stuck a Renault in it. They didn't have time to do much more than stick it in and get it to work. Kind of like giving a pair of running shoes with High arc support to a FLAT footed person. They work and yes very high tech. They hurt like hell and surely aren't gonna help you run faster.

The more I think about this the more I think that this has all been planned from last year(Firings and all). Maybe not as a plan A but as a plan B.
Mechanical issues aside, how is that good aero when it blocks air to the diffuser and clears it to the RW. That's just begging for drag.
Well, I was talking about the PU packaging..obviously you're talking about the package as a whole. Sorry my Bad.
No worries. It's kind of impressive how they managed such an extreme packaging like Redbull, even if they're polar opposites, in a much shorter time yet still remained relatively reliable.

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Looks like they've brought many updates ? ...

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diffuser wrote:
Sat Oct 27, 2018 3:36 pm
Looks like they've brought many updates ? ...

https://i.imgur.com/90776Fd.jpg
Looks like it was on the other car as well. Some sort of sensor to measure airflow to the diffuser maybe?

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M840TR wrote:
Sat Oct 27, 2018 3:46 pm
diffuser wrote:
Sat Oct 27, 2018 3:36 pm
Looks like they've brought many updates ? ...

https://i.imgur.com/90776Fd.jpg
Looks like it was on the other car as well. Some sort of sensor to measure airflow to the diffuser maybe?

https://www.racefans.net/wp-content/upl ... 4220-6.jpg
I'm leaning to a optical illusion right now.