Honda Power Unit Hardware & Software

All that has to do with the power train, gearbox, clutch, fuels and lubricants, etc. Generally the mechanical side of Formula One.
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Re: Honda Power Unit Hardware & Software

Post by mzso » Mon Feb 18, 2019 5:32 pm

Morteza wrote:
Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:22 pm
https://imgr4.auto-motor-und-sport.de/T ... 425123.jpg
Via AMuS
Where does the air go from the sideboxes? Seems like below the engine.

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Re: Honda Power Unit Hardware & Software

Post by maguetox » Mon Feb 18, 2019 6:13 pm

Total laps for today´s testing:
Verstappen: 128
Kvyat: 77

Total: 205 laps.

=D> =D> =D> =D> =D>

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Re: Honda Power Unit Hardware & Software

Post by gandharva » Mon Feb 18, 2019 7:10 pm

Honda's 2019 engine "a thing of beauty," says Red Bull

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/hond ... l/4339963/

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Re: Honda Power Unit Hardware & Software

Post by HPD » Tue Feb 19, 2019 11:07 am

what's happening here :?:
minute 0:30

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Post by BillS » Tue Feb 19, 2019 1:00 pm

Sounds gearbox/clutch related to me.

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Re: Honda Power Unit Hardware & Software

Post by Jaisonas » Tue Feb 19, 2019 1:12 pm

HPD wrote:
Tue Feb 19, 2019 11:07 am
what's happening here :?:
minute 0:30
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upOSJNfh9wk
Those downshifts sound a lot more like merc's engine now to me, i honestly preferred the old brappy throttle blip...

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Re: Honda Power Unit Hardware & Software

Post by hurril » Tue Feb 19, 2019 1:28 pm

HPD wrote:
Tue Feb 19, 2019 11:07 am
what's happening here :?:
minute 0:30
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upOSJNfh9wk
That turbo sound though :)

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Re: Honda Power Unit Hardware & Software

Post by toraabe » Tue Feb 19, 2019 2:06 pm

mzso wrote:
Mon Feb 18, 2019 5:32 pm
Morteza wrote:
Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:22 pm
https://imgr4.auto-motor-und-sport.de/T ... 425123.jpg
Via AMuS
Where does the air go from the sideboxes? Seems like below the engine.
This is how the piping is with the Merc / Honda layout ...

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Re: Honda Power Unit Hardware & Software

Post by HPD » Tue Feb 19, 2019 5:51 pm

"I think we are in neutral," said Honda's F1 technical director Toyoharu Tanabe about the trade off between performance and packaging.

"The power unit performance or total package performance, we discussed very much with both teams [Red Bull and sister team Toro Rosso], and we compromised [to work out] which is better.

"If you have more power, [you have] more performance one way, but the chassis side is [at a] deficit. So what is the best compromise? Then we decide the best [overall] package performance."

"Red Bull Technology discussed this between the teams and that makes our job very simple," he said.

"The aim is to make it compact and nice. That is what we have done during this off season."
"We carried over the concept from last year, which means the concept from 2017," he said.

"One of the reasons is the power unit regulations does not change this year, so we have kept working on our power unit.

"We improved our performance and reliability for this year. It means it [the engine] is not new but updated."

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/14162 ... erformance

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Re: Honda Power Unit Hardware & Software

Post by DutchDopey » Tue Feb 19, 2019 6:37 pm

HPD wrote:
Tue Feb 19, 2019 5:51 pm
"I think we are in neutral," said Honda's F1 technical director Toyoharu Tanabe about the trade off between performance and packaging.

"The power unit performance or total package performance, we discussed very much with both teams [Red Bull and sister team Toro Rosso], and we compromised [to work out] which is better.

"If you have more power, [you have] more performance one way, but the chassis side is [at a] deficit. So what is the best compromise? Then we decide the best [overall] package performance."

"Red Bull Technology discussed this between the teams and that makes our job very simple," he said.

"The aim is to make it compact and nice. That is what we have done during this off season."
"We carried over the concept from last year, which means the concept from 2017," he said.

"One of the reasons is the power unit regulations does not change this year, so we have kept working on our power unit.

"We improved our performance and reliability for this year. It means it [the engine] is not new but updated."

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/14162 ... erformance
This is in stark contrast with what was earlier been said by RB; "We said to Honda just build te fastest PU and we will built a car around that.".

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Re: Honda Power Unit Hardware & Software

Post by mzso » Tue Feb 19, 2019 7:01 pm

DutchDopey wrote:
Tue Feb 19, 2019 6:37 pm
This is in stark contrast with what was earlier been said by RB; "We said to Honda just build te fastest PU and we will built a car around that.".
Not necessarily. If you think about fastest as overall performance.

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Re: Honda Power Unit Hardware & Software

Post by etusch » Tue Feb 19, 2019 7:02 pm

It is something not must be contrast. they are saying they did together what they did and we talked about it here. It is obviously not one side job. So both side must be tried to match what other one did. Honda also said that they left 3 pu per season aim for redbull's performance request more power less life. 5 pu per season.

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Re: Honda Power Unit Hardware & Software

Post by Jaisonas » Wed Feb 20, 2019 12:04 am

First small clip of onboard audio

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Re: Honda Power Unit Hardware & Software

Post by Krischnen » Wed Feb 20, 2019 12:33 am

According to Marc Priestley, there are still issues with vibrations.
Has anyone read of heard something about this?

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Re: Honda Power Unit Hardware & Software

Post by McMika98 » Wed Feb 20, 2019 7:03 am

Would not give any credence to that. His isnt on track so pure speculation if not mischief on his part to try an explain redbulls pace. He has connections with Mclaren and thats that.