2019 performance speculation

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I think it's more like Silver & Red, then .7 behind is Red Bull, and .3 behind it's too close to call.
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After the second day of testing I can say with confidence that the cars have not been slowed down any appreciable amount over last year. Maybe they're back to mid late 2017 levels of performance. Mercedes hasn't lost a step knocking out high 21's at the start of their race sim just like last year.
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I think Red Bull is clearly the fastest since Gasly couldn't keep it on the track, like a slot car slinging off on a corner. A further 3 seconds back is STR. Then it looks to be Alfa, Mercedes and Ferrari. Then Haas, Renault and Mclaren. Williams is way off the pace based on their showing.
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Sauber qualy 2018: 1.18.9
Alfa test 2019: 1.17.7

Wasn't reglementation supposed to make car 1.5sec slower ? :lol:

Alfa is "supposed" to be independant as well. But they got basically an junior Ferrari, with a former Ferrari engineer, a former Ferrari driver, a junior academy Ferrari second driver, a Ferrari Group sponsoring and money
And strangely the same front wing concept :D

This will make other teams even more angry than the Haas situation.

But back to topic, I think Marko was right: New rules changes nothing as car will be as fast as last year

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The asphalt has been roughed up, so especially on this track the grip is better. But Several drivers have confirmed the cars are (feel) as quick as last year..

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I would say :

1. Mercedes
2. Ferrari
3. Renault
4. Red Bull
5. McLaren
6. Alfa Romeo
7. Haas
8. Racing Point
9. Toro Rosso
10. Williams

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Enstone wrote:
20 Feb 2019, 14:49
I would say :

1. Mercedes
2. Ferrari
3. Renault
4. Red Bull
5. McLaren
6. Alfa Romeo
7. Haas
8. Racing Point
9. Toro Rosso
10. Williams
At this moment, I would switch Ferrari & Mercedes and also Mclaren with Alfa Romeo. So Ferrari on top, Alfa on 5th

Edit, RRB in front of Renault as well :)
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bauc wrote:
20 Feb 2019, 15:06
Enstone wrote:
20 Feb 2019, 14:49
I would say :

1. Mercedes
2. Ferrari
3. Renault
4. Red Bull
5. McLaren
6. Alfa Romeo
7. Haas
8. Racing Point
9. Toro Rosso
10. Williams
At this moment, I would switch Ferrari & Mercedes and also Mclaren with Alfa Romeo. So Ferrari on top, Alfa on 5th

Edit, RRB in front of Renault as well :)
Take a look at the long times runs... don't forget that Renault don't have DRS for the moment.

Alfa Romeo is the only team to have run the C5 tyres.

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Enstone wrote:
20 Feb 2019, 15:24
bauc wrote:
20 Feb 2019, 15:06
Enstone wrote:
20 Feb 2019, 14:49
I would say :

1. Mercedes
2. Ferrari
3. Renault
4. Red Bull
5. McLaren
6. Alfa Romeo
7. Haas
8. Racing Point
9. Toro Rosso
10. Williams
At this moment, I would switch Ferrari & Mercedes and also Mclaren with Alfa Romeo. So Ferrari on top, Alfa on 5th

Edit, RRB in front of Renault as well :)
Take a look at the long times runs... don't forget that Renault don't have DRS for the moment.

Alfa Romeo is the only team to have run the C5 tyres.
I've seen the long runs but my gut tells me they will be the surprise of the start of the season, maybe even 4th out of the box.
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1. Ferrari
2. Mercedes

3. Red bull
4. Renault
5. Alfa Romeo
6. McLaren
7. Haas
8. Toro Rosso
9. Racing Point (but progress after)

10. Williams

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Jambier wrote:
20 Feb 2019, 14:30
Ferrari Group sponsoring and money
Ferrari Group? Hmm...I learn something new every day apparently.

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Enstone wrote:
20 Feb 2019, 14:49
I would say :

1. Mercedes
2. Ferrari
3. Renault
4. Red Bull
5. McLaren
6. Alfa Romeo
7. Haas
8. Racing Point
9. Toro Rosso
10. Williams

Oh come one, you know you ant to Put Renault up there on P1. Go for it! :D

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bauc wrote:
20 Feb 2019, 15:30
Enstone wrote:
20 Feb 2019, 15:24
bauc wrote:
20 Feb 2019, 15:06


At this moment, I would switch Ferrari & Mercedes and also Mclaren with Alfa Romeo. So Ferrari on top, Alfa on 5th

Edit, RRB in front of Renault as well :)
Take a look at the long times runs... don't forget that Renault don't have DRS for the moment.

Alfa Romeo is the only team to have run the C5 tyres.
I've seen the long runs but my gut tells me they will be the surprise of the start of the season, maybe even 4th out of the box.
Maybe we'll see... but according to their long runs they are more arround 5/6.

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I have a 'feeling' that even though Mclaren are not looking like the vanguard they will be a good all round scorer and have quite a good year while Haas and Alfa slide back a little to be in the same group right behind Renault, possibly headed by STR and Mclaren.

Which ever way we look at it it has to be

Merc Ferrari Div 1 with RBR tripping them up

Renault sort of a couple of steps behind them, but Sauber/Alfa could be there early in the year.

The others are all going to me in a group so close a gain of .2 can move any team to top it . Hopefully Williams will be included, and Hopefully the TV coverage will give plenty of time to this section of the field, cos its where the interest will be.
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