Norris was nearly a full car in front of Sainz , Plus Im not sure Norris even leaves the track at any point , theres certainly no clear gap between his wheel and the white line other than after the contact. It was clearly Kvyat's line that crossed Sainz's line very hard due to his oversteer and Sainz moved as far left as possible and clipped Lando , rotating Lando to the right and then contact woth Kvyat.Schuttelberg wrote: ↑17 Apr 2019, 14:33Pretty much a penalty mated out on the basis of reputation in my book.Phil wrote: ↑17 Apr 2019, 03:33I see the issue more with Norris who was off the track and came back on and sandwiched Sainz who was adapting to Kvyat slightly understeering...foxmulder_ms wrote: ↑17 Apr 2019, 00:50I didnt see this discussed: Kvyat's penalty. I found it really unfair. If anything, Sainz initiated everything. ..
In RB air race they do it for the full lap with a budget wich must be a small fraction of F1 budgethenry wrote: ↑17 Apr 2019, 14:51Some years ago the broadcasters had access to ghost overlays showing two cars through the same corner. The first time I saw it Hamilton braked later than the comparison car and for a very brief moment I thought they had collided. It was an excellent way to see the differences in car performance and driver styles. After a few showings they dropped it. I imagine that now the technology has moved on so much that they could do a full lap comparison, I wish they would.Just_a_fan wrote: ↑17 Apr 2019, 10:27Interesting comparison of lines through the first few corners. Vettel goes wider and sacrifices a little entry speed in to the tight section but it gives him a better line out so he pulls away on the next straight. Max takes the classical line and is quicker in the corners but loses out on the exit before the straight. Nice to see these little differences.
Yes, except Lewis's team mate is allowed to race him and not contractually obliged to pull over...PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑19 Apr 2019, 14:33It is that the Lewis Mercedes dynasty has really turned like the Michael Ferrari one?
Let's wait for that.Just_a_fan wrote: ↑19 Apr 2019, 14:49Yes, except Lewis's team mate is allowed to race him and not contractually obliged to pull over...PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑19 Apr 2019, 14:33It is that the Lewis Mercedes dynasty has really turned like the Michael Ferrari one?
Team orders are not unlike an undercut when it comes to strategy. If one team does it the other must follow suit or give up an advantage in the WDC. It seemed to matter less to Mercedes when they were more dominant, but last season they 'imbibed' to keep a balance against Ferrari's use of them. All IMHO.WaikeCU wrote: ↑19 Apr 2019, 15:10Let's wait for that.Just_a_fan wrote: ↑19 Apr 2019, 14:49Yes, except Lewis's team mate is allowed to race him and not contractually obliged to pull over...PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑19 Apr 2019, 14:33It is that the Lewis Mercedes dynasty has really turned like the Michael Ferrari one?
Is it wrong I’m half hoping for something as chaotic as the last couple of years in Baku?PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑19 Apr 2019, 14:33F1 is so boring these days. I really haven't had a heated race thread argument in years!
It is that the Lewis Mercedes dynasty has really turned like the Michael Ferrari one?
Nope. Same here but fully hoping!dtro wrote: ↑19 Apr 2019, 16:33Is it wrong I’m half hoping for something as chaotic as the last couple of years in Baku?PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑19 Apr 2019, 14:33F1 is so boring these days. I really haven't had a heated race thread argument in years!
It is that the Lewis Mercedes dynasty has really turned like the Michael Ferrari one?
I really hope ferrari can challenge mercedes. Last year it was very interesting when ferrari had upper hand first part of the season. Mercedes suddenly changes their narrative. These polite guys suddenly become nervous and just complain about others cheating.PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑19 Apr 2019, 14:33F1 is so boring these days. I really haven't had a heated race thread argument in years!
It is that the Lewis Mercedes dynasty has really turned like the Michael Ferrari one?
Actually I think it started when Norris outbraked himself and presented a sudden opportunity for Kvyat and Sainz to pass him. The accident happened because no one was prepared to yield.NathanOlder wrote: ↑18 Apr 2019, 09:56Norris was nearly a full car in front of Sainz , Plus Im not sure Norris even leaves the track at any point , theres certainly no clear gap between his wheel and the white line other than after the contact. It was clearly Kvyat's line that crossed Sainz's line very hard due to his oversteer and Sainz moved as far left as possible and clipped Lando , rotating Lando to the right and then contact woth Kvyat.Schuttelberg wrote: ↑17 Apr 2019, 14:33Pretty much a penalty mated out on the basis of reputation in my book.
I'm 100% saying its a racing incident and nothing more, no one deserved a penalty, its Lap 1, the 2nd proper braking zone, 20 cars bunched up, these things happen. Kvyat was hard done by, but he was the one that started the chain of events.
Er, you have watched this season so far, yes? Lewis's team mate won the first race. Wasn't required to step aside and let him though. So that'll be that covered then. Moving on.WaikeCU wrote: ↑19 Apr 2019, 15:10Let's wait for that.Just_a_fan wrote: ↑19 Apr 2019, 14:49Yes, except Lewis's team mate is allowed to race him and not contractually obliged to pull over...PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑19 Apr 2019, 14:33It is that the Lewis Mercedes dynasty has really turned like the Michael Ferrari one?
Your argument is invalid. Simple fact is Ham was too slow to win, just like Vet was in Bahrain.Just_a_fan wrote: ↑20 Apr 2019, 01:17Er, you have watched this season so far, yes? Lewis's team mate won the first race. Wasn't required to step aside and let him though. So that'll be that covered then. Moving on.WaikeCU wrote: ↑19 Apr 2019, 15:10Let's wait for that.Just_a_fan wrote: ↑19 Apr 2019, 14:49
Yes, except Lewis's team mate is allowed to race him and not contractually obliged to pull over...