the way I understood it so far, Leclerc is just better when it comes to slow corners, stop & go, getting the perfect exit and so on, while he has disadvantages on more flowing kind of tracks. So I'd say it's more of a coincidence that it fits together with the tracks Ferrari is relatively strong onRingleheim wrote: ↑08 Jun 2019, 08:05Also: when the Ferrari is doing well and not a handful to drive, LeClerc seems to get the better of Vettel.
Bottas already had burned fuel on the stint before though, so he started his run on hard tires with a ~half a second fuel advantage. If you take that into account, Bottas 17 lap average on hards is 2 tenths quicker than Leclerc's 16 lap average on mediums (if you take out the cool down laps, it's something around ~3 tenths)atanatizante wrote: ↑07 Jun 2019, 21:43Bottas did a 1.16.2 on his 18th lap race simulation and Leclerc did a 1.16.5 on his 2nd lap on soft tyres!
Apart from that, on the hard tyres, he was between 7 tenths and 1,2 sec/lap faster over Leclerc on medium.
... and we must take into account that 4 to 5 tenths between the hard and medium tyressearch wrote: ↑08 Jun 2019, 09:26Bottas already had burned fuel on the stint before though, so he started his run on hard tires with a ~half a second fuel advantage. If you take that into account, Bottas 17 lap average on hards is 2 tenths quicker than Leclerc's 16 lap average on mediums (if you take out the cool down laps, it's something around ~3 tenths)atanatizante wrote: ↑07 Jun 2019, 21:43Bottas did a 1.16.2 on his 18th lap race simulation and Leclerc did a 1.16.5 on his 2nd lap on soft tyres!
Apart from that, on the hard tyres, he was between 7 tenths and 1,2 sec/lap faster over Leclerc on medium.
maybe on the first lap, but in terms of durability the hard actually looked better yesterday for most teams.atanatizante wrote: ↑08 Jun 2019, 09:29... and we must take into account that 4 to 5 tenths between the hard and medium tyressearch wrote: ↑08 Jun 2019, 09:26Bottas already had burned fuel on the stint before though, so he started his run on hard tires with a ~half a second fuel advantage. If you take that into account, Bottas 17 lap average on hards is 2 tenths quicker than Leclerc's 16 lap average on mediums (if you take out the cool down laps, it's something around ~3 tenths)atanatizante wrote: ↑07 Jun 2019, 21:43Bottas did a 1.16.2 on his 18th lap race simulation and Leclerc did a 1.16.5 on his 2nd lap on soft tyres!
Apart from that, on the hard tyres, he was between 7 tenths and 1,2 sec/lap faster over Leclerc on medium.
Ferrari used PU1 in practice? Thought I saw a FIA notice saying they’d change a bunch of PU components as of Friday... they already have ICE2 in the car.search wrote: ↑08 Jun 2019, 09:50maybe on the first lap, but in terms of durability the hard actually looked better yesterday for most teams.atanatizante wrote: ↑08 Jun 2019, 09:29... and we must take into account that 4 to 5 tenths between the hard and medium tyressearch wrote: ↑08 Jun 2019, 09:26
Bottas already had burned fuel on the stint before though, so he started his run on hard tires with a ~half a second fuel advantage. If you take that into account, Bottas 17 lap average on hards is 2 tenths quicker than Leclerc's 16 lap average on mediums (if you take out the cool down laps, it's something around ~3 tenths)
And Mercedes was using the new engine already while Ferrari was using the old one. I think it will be close. In the race Mercedes may still have the upper hand indeed, but especially today, I'm not sure at all
This just sums up the horrible work Pirelli has done. Thousands of kilometers have been done already, months of learning time passed, but there still is just a big fat question mark when it comes to tyres. There is no bigger limiting factor. Cars just don't show their true potential because of that.We haven’t found any! I think sometimes when you get the tyre to work it is working and sometimes it isn’t. I think in Monte Carlo, with the family of the softer tyres, we got them to work, but we don’t have a solution. If you ask me ‘what is your solution for the next race?’ I don’t know. Maybe we haven’t got one. It’s like we fall into it or not. We are working hard and for sure by going on and using the tyres you learn more and more but do we have a proper understanding of it, I would say, no.
You don't think it's exposing Haas' lack of its own engineering? Other teams are getting to grips with the tyres better. With only 200 staff something has to go, after all, and i mean if you look down the list of times from FP2 then to some extent it reflects the engineering capability of each team doesn't it, with just the Hondas out of positionLM10 wrote: ↑08 Jun 2019, 13:22Guenther, last time you were in this press conference you talked about the need to unlock the potential of Pirelli’s tyres. What solutions have you found in the last couple of races?
This just sums up the horrible work Pirelli has done. Thousands of kilometers have been done already, months of learning time passed, but there still is just a big fat question mark when it comes to tyres. There is no bigger limiting factor. Cars just don't show their true potential because of that.We haven’t found any! I think sometimes when you get the tyre to work it is working and sometimes it isn’t. I think in Monte Carlo, with the family of the softer tyres, we got them to work, but we don’t have a solution. If you ask me ‘what is your solution for the next race?’ I don’t know. Maybe we haven’t got one. It’s like we fall into it or not. We are working hard and for sure by going on and using the tyres you learn more and more but do we have a proper understanding of it, I would say, no.
Just a single team which understands the tyres. Is this the F1 championship we want to see? Let's call it Pirelli championship, really.
This is a Technical Formula, with the tires been just one more component for the teams to maximize if they want success... The fact that some may have done a better job in dealing with the tires than others isn’t Pirelli’s fault... They are all using the same tires, same compounds and have had access to the same data from testing... It’s up to the teams to figure it out.LM10 wrote:Guenther, last time you were in this press conference you talked about the need to unlock the potential of Pirelli’s tyres. What solutions have you found in the last couple of races?
This just sums up the horrible work Pirelli has done. Thousands of kilometers have been done already, months of learning time passed, but there still is just a big fat question mark when it comes to tyres. There is no bigger limiting factor. Cars just don't show their true potential because of that.We haven’t found any! I think sometimes when you get the tyre to work it is working and sometimes it isn’t. I think in Monte Carlo, with the family of the softer tyres, we got them to work, but we don’t have a solution. If you ask me ‘what is your solution for the next race?’ I don’t know. Maybe we haven’t got one. It’s like we fall into it or not. We are working hard and for sure by going on and using the tyres you learn more and more but do we have a proper understanding of it, I would say, no.
Just a single team which understands the tyres. Is this the F1 championship we want to see? Let's call it Pirelli championship, really.
This is true but when it comes to 9 teams have bad tyres menagement, and only 1 is smart.. its no more sport.SmallSoldier wrote: ↑08 Jun 2019, 15:53This is a Technical Formula, with the tires been just one more component for the teams to maximize if they want success... The fact that some may have done a better job in dealing with the tires than others isn’t Pirelli’s fault... They are all using the same tires, same compounds and have had access to the same data from testing... It’s up to the teams to figure it out.LM10 wrote:Guenther, last time you were in this press conference you talked about the need to unlock the potential of Pirelli’s tyres. What solutions have you found in the last couple of races?
This just sums up the horrible work Pirelli has done. Thousands of kilometers have been done already, months of learning time passed, but there still is just a big fat question mark when it comes to tyres. There is no bigger limiting factor. Cars just don't show their true potential because of that.We haven’t found any! I think sometimes when you get the tyre to work it is working and sometimes it isn’t. I think in Monte Carlo, with the family of the softer tyres, we got them to work, but we don’t have a solution. If you ask me ‘what is your solution for the next race?’ I don’t know. Maybe we haven’t got one. It’s like we fall into it or not. We are working hard and for sure by going on and using the tyres you learn more and more but do we have a proper understanding of it, I would say, no.
Just a single team which understands the tyres. Is this the F1 championship we want to see? Let's call it Pirelli championship, really.
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