lol yeah for sure; if the Renault powered cars gain so much speed on the straights compared to 2018, its mainly because they have lowered their drag level somehow... but somehow they are faster than 2018, although they are heavier...
BS. Those gains are mainly, if not exclusively, thanks to a much stronger PU, like the team states, especially for Renault who has not a "low drag setup". And the Mclaren did definitely not use one of their low drag RW in France.
Renault, like many teams, already recovered their 2018 DF levels in the 2019 winter testing according to its drivers.
The 2019 DRS is stronger, but its the same for everybody.
So we're talking about two different aspects; the top speed gains compared to 2018 and the top speed advantage against other 2019 cars.
The top speed advantage compared to the the best cars can also be down to lower df and drag, obviously.
But the Renault has often equal or better top speeds than the Haas, FI, STR while being faster overall at the same time.
The Ferrari is generally the only car that is faster than the Renault and has similar top speeds in Q. They are also the ones who usually make the biggest gains in the straights compared to 2018, after the Renault powered cars...
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I think Renault has made real good progress with the engine.
They are very close to Mercedes one in races. That's good
Now Enstone and Woking can really now how far behind they are on chassis' side
They gained 50-60 hp this year, so in race trim they are more or less equal with MB and Ferrari.
They have no problems overtaking both MB and Ferrari powered cars, so the power is there.
The Mc Laren is the best of the two renault powered cars, and it is really nice to see that they at least has got the engine they deserved. I suppose Renault got back some of their people that went to Mercedes.
So they have really done a great job in Viry the last two years. Another thing is that Mc Laren is fully backing them, and you have never heard anything but positivty from Woking.
During the Hulkenberg race, he spent several dozen laps behind Raikkonen. He could not overtake him even with DRS and complained about the speed of Alfa on straights The Renault engine is definitely better than Honda but leading duo is still ahead.
Prost says only the Ferrari is more potent... and mainly in Qualy, based on very precise datas.
Hulkenberg wasnt running the spec B, but he mostly complained about the impossibility to catch the Sauber in the curves due to the df loss because of the turbulences and due to the track characteristics. He says he was 0.2s faster than the Sauber on the paper.
So the Sauber's biggest adantage was the clean air. It had a (rather small) engine avantage and had probably less df and drag.