2019 Belgian Grand Prix - Spa-Francorchamps, Aug 30 - Sep 1

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Re: 2019 Belgian Grand Prix - Spa-Francorchamps, Aug 30 - Sep 1

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TAG wrote:
01 Sep 2019, 17:04
More racing to come next week, so see all you guys soon. If Monza is not a Ferrari 1-2 this season will well and truly be a failure for them.
I'm betting in Monza, Mercedes will be hoping to do the same thing they did last year, pressure the leader and get them to eat up their tires.
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TAG wrote:
01 Sep 2019, 17:04


More racing to come next week, so see all you guys soon. If Monza is not a Ferrari 1-2 this season will well and truly be a failure for them.
this season is kind of failure for Ferrari.... The remaining races will get us extent of that failure

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If anything they should be investigating it due to Perez not Albon.
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TAG wrote:
01 Sep 2019, 17:10
If anything they should be investigating it due to Perez not Albon.
You are correct
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It is difficult for Hamilton, he can't fight with 2 Ferrari on his own. And Q doesn't help him at all so I think it will be pretty much the same story in Italy.

I can't even imagine being Vettel right now. If he doesn't win in Monza, boy oh boy.

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If Vettel doesnt win Monza... so what? He’ll just learn, improve and become a better driver for it. I dont get all this pressure talk. Leclerc is good. No shame in being beaten.
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dans79 wrote:
01 Sep 2019, 17:08
TAG wrote:
01 Sep 2019, 17:04
More racing to come next week, so see all you guys soon. If Monza is not a Ferrari 1-2 this season will well and truly be a failure for them.
I'm betting in Monza, Mercedes will be hoping to do the same thing they did last year, pressure the leader and get them to eat up their tires.
Last season they had the luxury of using 2 cars to combat Raikkonen, this time it might be Ferrari, given how the season has unfolded they completely lost the "shame" they had the last couple of years.

But then again Mercedes is stronger this season and might still win.

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Phil wrote:
01 Sep 2019, 17:19
If Vettel doesnt win Monza... so what? He’ll just learn, improve and become a better driver for it. I dont get all this pressure talk. Leclerc is good. No shame in being beaten.
It's only a matter of time before ferrari put all their eggs in one basket, so Vettel is a tier 2 driver in Ferrari. I say this is pretty serious for a 4 time WC.

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Bill_Kar wrote:
01 Sep 2019, 17:16
It is difficult for Hamilton, he can't fight with 2 Ferrari on his own. And Q doesn't help him at all so I think it will be pretty much the same story in Italy.

I can't even imagine being Vettel right now. If he doesn't win in Monza, boy oh boy.
Kudos to Vittel, he played the team game not made a stand like a jaded prima donna.
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You mean how they did in 2007 when they backed Kimi and right the next year Massa because he was performing better?

Putting eggs in one basked makes zero sense when you have the luxury of having two quick drivers that you can watch who comes out on top. Just look at the mess Ferrari put themselves in at the beginning of this year when they were backing Vettel and holding up themselves?
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Ferrari is a team that lacks confidence. They had the car to finish 1-2 today . The strategy for Sebastian Vettel was amaturesque. Pitted him too early.

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No it is not that bad. Ferrari have two top drivers. Maybe a better pairing than Hamilton and Bottas.
Vettel is a stage mentally where he isn't bothered by the eb and flow of racing. He knows there will be times where has the better pace than Charles. And he also knows how fight for a whole season. Charles is faster and more talented, but i don't think Vettel has to panic at this stage as Charles is still in the fetal stage. :lol:
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fritticaldi wrote:
01 Sep 2019, 17:31
Ferrari is a team that lacks confidence. They had the car to finish 1-2 today . The strategy for Sebastian Vettel was amaturesque. Pitted him too early.
Wrong, without the Vettel’s undercut and teamorder, Hamilton would have got them both. He was only 0,5s behind at the finish because of the holdup by Vettel. Excellent strategy.

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Phil wrote:
01 Sep 2019, 17:19
If Vettel doesnt win Monza... so what? He’ll just learn, improve and become a better driver for it. I dont get all this pressure talk. Leclerc is good. No shame in being beaten.

There's no shame in it, but do Ferrari want to give Vettel 30-40mil a year if Leclerc is faster, if they want to favour Leclerc because he's faster and because it will create problems having the 4 time WDC on way more money being told to move over for the team.

THe pressure is because if he can't straight up beat Leclerc, do Ferrari have any reason to renew for 2021.