NathanOlder wrote: ↑05 Nov 2019, 17:02
Red Bull academy. Most of the time they build them in to little spoilt brats.
You know that this ist just your personal bias showing, right?
Speed, Buemi, Alguersuari, Hartley, Vergne, Klien, Vettel, Liuzzi, Ricciardo, Kvyat, Albon, Verstappen, Sainz and Gasly made it to F1 coming from the RB Academy.
Most of them never made enough of an impact to remember their performances, but almost none of them is remembered as a spolied brat - many of them being far from that, actually.
The few which could be categorized as such are Vettel, who really tends to get the red mist sometimes and then has a hard time admitting guilt initially but usually comes around some time later (was especially bad in his early RBR days). Then there's Verstappen where most of his behaviour can probably be ascribed to his upbringing as Jos Verstappen's son and Kvyat who just keeps crashing into people without ever thinking that it might be him.
So maybe, if you really wanted to describe Vettel as a spoiled brat and would ignore Verstappen being a Verstappen and Kvyat's low mental capacities you'd have 3/14 which surely isn't "most of the time" ...
drunkf1fan wrote: ↑05 Nov 2019, 17:30
RZS10 wrote: ↑05 Nov 2019, 16:49
I seriously don't understand why Hulk had to give the position back ...
https://youtu.be/ggtQwHGyTa8?t=92
He's fully alongside and Kimi just doesn't give him any space, he doesn't even overtake him whilst off track.
In the end having to wait for Kimi like 2 laps later cost him the time he needed to catch Sainz whose tyres were dying towards the end.
Firstly and most importantly, he was able to floor it because he went off track. If he'd intended to stay on track he'd both have had to lift to turn tighter and he'd have to slip in behind Kimi. The only reason he stayed alongside Kimi and able to pass into the next corner was he kept his foot down and drove clean off the track. It's painfully obvious that the only way he was able to make that pass was by driving off the track. The decision to make him give the position back was both insanely obvious and doable immediately.
He chose to despite knowing he kept his foot in and drove clean off the track gaining and advantage in doing so, pull away from Kimi. He could have once off the track simply not made the move and passed on the next straight, he could have realised himself right after passing or the team could have told him to give the position back and then got right back to attacking, instead he ignored a ludicrously obvious situation where he gained an advantage by being off track, ignored it for a couple of laps and then got told to stop being an idiot.
You can't gain an advantage by going off track, he clearly did and turned that advantage into a pass.
Yea but you completely ignore that Kimi was required to leave space to a driver that was right next to him and just blatantly ran him off track, unless you believe that drivers should yield even from the position Hulk was in but then i fully agree with him saying "Dunno how you wanna race then"....
. Maybe some parts falling (didn't check)
