So on the one hand it is suggested that fuel is burned in the exhaust ‘to jet power the turbine’ while on the other hand the waste-gate/s are opened to reduce back-pressure. Sounds like it have been forgotten that when waste-gate/s are opened the exhaust gasses are bypassing the turbine and so not powering the turbine.Bandit1216 wrote: ↑03 Mar 2020, 15:22Using a sort of anti lag system for the sake harvesting energy when off throttle, seems sound to me. I doubt it to be used during race though, but could be a good party mode kind of thing. In quasi, only the flow restricts you, right. Not the fuel load.
Why not use a couple of hundred cc's to jet power the turbine off throttle, and store some energy. Energy that let's you use the mgh-h at the strait to power the compressor, and fully open the waste gate for less pumping losses at the turbine.
At the strait. As in later on. At an other time.saviour stivala wrote: ↑03 Mar 2020, 18:53So on the one hand it is suggested that fuel is burned in the exhaust ‘to jet power the turbine’ while on the other hand the waste-gate/s are opened to reduce back-pressure. Sounds like it have been forgotten that when waste-gate/s are opened the exhaust gasses are bypassing the turbine and so not powering the turbine.Bandit1216 wrote: ↑03 Mar 2020, 15:22Using a sort of anti lag system for the sake harvesting energy when off throttle, seems sound to me. I doubt it to be used during race though, but could be a good party mode kind of thing. In quasi, only the flow restricts you, right. Not the fuel load.
Why not use a couple of hundred cc's to jet power the turbine off throttle, and store some energy. Energy that let's you use the mgh-h at the strait to power the compressor, and fully open the waste gate for less pumping losses at the turbine.
Are we talking about acceleration?saviour stivala wrote: ↑04 Mar 2020, 10:04When waste-gate/s are open (party mode/free load mode) exhaust gasses are bypassing the turbine.
I mean harvesting in the corner/at breaking (that's why I first say "off throttle) and later on when you are on the strait you can use that energy in, what you call, free mode.saviour stivala wrote: ↑04 Mar 2020, 10:04When waste-gate/s are open (party mode/free load mode) exhaust gasses are bypassing the turbine.
the turbine is significantly powered WGO by the exhaust pulse blowdownsaviour stivala wrote: ↑03 Mar 2020, 18:53....on the one hand it is suggested that fuel is burned in the exhaust ‘to jet power the turbine’ while on the other hand the waste-gate/s are opened to reduce back-pressure. Sounds like it have been forgotten that when waste-gate/s are opened the exhaust gasses are bypassing the turbine and so not powering the turbine.
When waste-gates are open on the present F1 power unit the exhaust gasses are bypassing the exhaust turbine and not just Reliving the exhaust turbine of some of its pressure (regulating the pressure). Harvesting by the 'H'. There cannot be any harvesting by the 'H' when waste-gates are open because no work is being done by the exhaust gasses on the turbine which powers the 'H'.Bandit1216 wrote: ↑04 Mar 2020, 15:32I mean harvesting in the corner/at breaking (that's why I first say "off throttle) and later on when you are on the strait you can use that energy in, what you call, free mode.saviour stivala wrote: ↑04 Mar 2020, 10:04When waste-gate/s are open (party mode/free load mode) exhaust gasses are bypassing the turbine.