2020 Austrian Grand Prix - Spielberg, 3-5 July

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Renault winning race

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ENGINE TUNER wrote:
28 Jun 2020, 17:52
SirBastianVettel wrote:
28 Jun 2020, 11:01
I really have no idea what the pecking order will be this year (which is great!). Did Ferrari lose the GP last year just because of strategy or was the race pace of the Red Bull really that much better? Will Mercedes be competitive if it's not too hot? Will Red Bull be closer in qualifying because of all the extra engine regulations regarding oil burning and fuel sensor trickery. So many questions..
Ferrari pitted LEC too soon(a lap or 2 in order to cover off BOT undercutting him) not recognizing VER as a threat for the win. The Mercs couldn't put up much fight to VER because of their overheating problems. And then VER crashed into him and pushed him off track.
It was over before they even reached the apex. Charles had time and space to cut back and get the run on him to the next but didn't yield so ran out of track.

Charles defense was to open the door, wave Max through and expect him to leave a gap.

100% not a penalty, not a push (Max never steered left, he just took the racing line, watch his onboard) and not a crash

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It will be interesting to see how Mercedes and Red Bull do, both are putting updates on their cars without on track/race testing.

Think Renault will be scrapping with Ferrari for 4th/5th/6th on the grid in qualifying and the race

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That looks really really great

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Have they declared tire choices by teams for the next 2 weekends?

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if das is used this weekend will it be protested

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NAPI10 wrote:
29 Jun 2020, 16:31
Have they declared tire choices by teams for the next 2 weekends?
All teams get the same sets for all races this season, no team choice

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Joseph Hudson wrote:
29 Jun 2020, 16:34
if das is used this weekend will it be protested
If the Pink Mercedes is quick i'm sure it will be protested. I still think teams will follow through with earlier threats this COVID business only delayed protests on DAS and Pink Merc.
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Dee wrote:
29 Jun 2020, 12:04
It will be interesting to see how Mercedes and Red Bull do, both are putting updates on their cars without on track/race testing.

Think Renault will be scrapping with Ferrari for 4th/5th/6th on the grid in qualifying and the race
Renault won't even be 4th fastest car, not to mention be scrapping with Ferrari.

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Joseph Hudson wrote:
29 Jun 2020, 16:34
if das is used this weekend will it be protested
Depends on whether A: RedBull / Ferrari have developed their own, and B: whether the result is close. If Mercedes are only a few seconds ahead then it will protested as being a thing that gave them an advantage. If they're 45 seconds up the road, probably not as DAS isn't going to be worth anything like that.

If RedBull and/or Ferrari are ahead of Mercedes, I doubt there would be a protest. Which would then, of course, set up Mercedes to run it for the rest of the season. FIA: "What? You're only protesting it because they won this time. Go away" :lol: .
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LM10 wrote:
29 Jun 2020, 17:07
Dee wrote:
29 Jun 2020, 12:04
It will be interesting to see how Mercedes and Red Bull do, both are putting updates on their cars without on track/race testing.

Think Renault will be scrapping with Ferrari for 4th/5th/6th on the grid in qualifying and the race
Renault won't even be 4th fastest car, not to mention be scrapping with Ferrari.


Agree with you on both counts.

The Ferrari isn't going to be as bad as people think, particularly on this short, Mickey Mouse track.

What they have done to the mighty Österreichring is really sinful.

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Bill wrote:
29 Jun 2020, 10:32
Mercedes have to solve their cooling issues ,reliability and high altitude weakness am putting my money on Redbull Honda winning the race.
Would love to know where you get you insider information from. LOL, not even one lap turned in anger anywhere and they already have cooling issues.

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Just_a_fan wrote:
29 Jun 2020, 19:01
Joseph Hudson wrote:
29 Jun 2020, 16:34
if das is used this weekend will it be protested
Depends on whether A: RedBull / Ferrari have developed their own, and B: whether the result is close. If Mercedes are only a few seconds ahead then it will protested as being a thing that gave them an advantage. If they're 45 seconds up the road, probably not as DAS isn't going to be worth anything like that.

If RedBull and/or Ferrari are ahead of Mercedes, I doubt there would be a protest. Which would then, of course, set up Mercedes to run it for the rest of the season. FIA: "What? You're only protesting it because they won this time. Go away" :lol: .
I wonder if it will make merso front wheels vulnerable to wheel to wheel race. I am sure they already haf thought everything and made tests but we must see it in that condition

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Gerhardsa wrote:
29 Jun 2020, 19:38
Bill wrote:
29 Jun 2020, 10:32
Mercedes have to solve their cooling issues ,reliability and high altitude weakness am putting my money on Redbull Honda winning the race.
Would love to know where you get you insider information from. LOL, not even one lap turned in anger anywhere and they already have cooling issues.
Think he was going off of last year's car/PU, which had a fundamental cooling problem that could not be fixed because they miscalculated the cooling requirements in the design phase. It was addressed *slightly* during a Germany update (added a new ERS cooler, slightly more open bodywork in a few places, including a less restrictive engine cover).

For 2020, however, Bill must've missed the fact that Mercedes have said several times that the W11 rectified all of the cooling problems of the W10 (while still making the system smaller). This has been covered by several outlets. It mentioned how the PU was able to exceed limits the engineers thought it was capable of in '19 because of how hot they had to run it all the time.

A refresher, for Bill:

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/merc ... e/4685459/

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