2020 Austrian Grand Prix - Spielberg, 3-5 July

[nevill3]

The Stewards heard from the driver of Car 44 (Lewis Hamilton) and the team
representative and have reviewed video and telemetry evidences.
The driver mentioned that he passed a green light panel in turn 5. The video footage
confirmed that there have been yellow flags and green light panels at the same time
and therefore conflicting signals were shown to the driver. Taking this into account, the
Stewards decide to take no further action

but his first run time was deleted.

[Schuttelberg]

Does anyone else feel that Ferrari won't be able to progress in the race due to lack of straight line speed?

[nevill3]

I think they may struggle a little, if Seb goes for the contra tyre strategy and the track temp increases enough he may be able to hold off the top 10 starters who have to use the soft tyre, only the Mercedes, Lando and the Bulls may get far enough ahead before they have to pit to be able to come out ahead of him.

[LM10]

Did I understand it right that the current PU ranking regarding power output will stay the same until the end of the season because no power improvements are allowed, but only reliability related upgrades?

parts under the valve cover, inside the cylinder head, in the engine crankcase and gearbox, as well as the MGU-H, can no longer be touched in 2020. But they can be modified once for the start of each of the next three seasons.

Other components - the MGU-K and the battery - are allowed to be upgraded once from now until the end of 2021, and then once more in 2022 and 2023
https://ru.motorsport.com/f1/news/kak-f ... v/4797786/

Now, these stringent rules came quite surprising. While in recent seasons there was no limit in PU upgrade number (as long as you accepted penalties), they can only be upgraded once for each season until 2023? Or are they still allowed, if they’re OK with getting a penalty?

And you mean that MGU-K and the battery are still allowed to be upgraded once until end of 2020, right? All other parts can’t be touched until 2021 season starts.

[El Scorchio]

Quite possibly. It’s the sole thing that kept them at the front in a few races last season.

Will need to see how kind or otherwise the car is on its tyres too.

[jumpingfish]

Did I understand it right that the current PU ranking regarding power output will stay the same until the end of the season because no power improvements are allowed, but only reliability related upgrades?

parts under the valve cover, inside the cylinder head, in the engine crankcase and gearbox, as well as the MGU-H, can no longer be touched in 2020. But they can be modified once for the start of each of the next three seasons.

Other components - the MGU-K and the battery - are allowed to be upgraded once from now until the end of 2021, and then once more in 2022 and 2023
https://ru.motorsport.com/f1/news/kak-f ... v/4797786/

Now, these stringent rules came quite surprising. While in recent seasons there was no limit in PU upgrade number (as long as you accepted penalties), they can only be upgraded once for each season until 2023? Or are they still allowed, if they’re OK with getting a penalty?

And you mean that MGU-K and the battery are still allowed to be upgraded once until end of 2020, right? All other parts can’t be touched until 2021 season starts.

As I got it, they can upgrade Mguk+battery, other parts can be new, but same spec as previous. There is limit how many parts they can change without penalty, depends on how many races will be in 2020.
Anyway I think those little updates would not help them, their problems isnot only engine. Since 2018 their correlation is still absent, if they couldnot solve that fundamental problem still - gg wp

[Jolle]

With cars in 7th and 11th, I guess Ferrari has its front wing department already called in to do some overtime... could be an interesting first few corners.

[etusch]

Mclaren looks good. Ferrari look worse than I thought. May be they will be better at race

[LM10]

parts under the valve cover, inside the cylinder head, in the engine crankcase and gearbox, as well as the MGU-H, can no longer be touched in 2020. But they can be modified once for the start of each of the next three seasons.

Other components - the MGU-K and the battery - are allowed to be upgraded once from now until the end of 2021, and then once more in 2022 and 2023
https://ru.motorsport.com/f1/news/kak-f ... v/4797786/

Now, these stringent rules came quite surprising. While in recent seasons there was no limit in PU upgrade number (as long as you accepted penalties), they can only be upgraded once for each season until 2023? Or are they still allowed, if they’re OK with getting a penalty?

And you mean that MGU-K and the battery are still allowed to be upgraded once until end of 2020, right? All other parts can’t be touched until 2021 season starts.

As I got it, they can upgrade Mguk+battery, other parts can be new, but same spec as previous. There is limit how many parts they can change without penalty, depends on how many races will be in 2020.
Anyway I think those little updates would not help them, their problems isnot only engine. Since 2018 their correlation is still absent, if they couldnot solve that fundamental problem still - gg wp

Well, they surely have other major problems beside PU.
Hopefully, with their brand new simulator which initially was planned to be used for the 2021 car, their correlation issues will be gone. I don’t know if they still will only use it for the new reg car or now with the regulation changes being postponed also use it for the current car.

Do you, by chance, have any link explaining all that new engine regulations you’ve mentioned?

[TimW]

I wonder if Mercedes expects such a tire wear advantage from DAS that they feel there is no need to start on mediums. Otherwise, why did they not do Q2 on mediums? They would have made it for sure, and strategy wise it is better to copy Max. (Cause they are clearly faster, so will beat him on same strategy)

[Jolle]

If I was the head of Williams, Racing Point, McLaren or Alpha Tauri, I would be knocking on the backdoor of the FIA and Liberty asking for a financial "solution".... It's now obvious that the Ferrari engines weren't legal and therefore the non-ferrari teams. especially the midfield, have a right of more of the prize pie.

Everyone but Mercedes would go up one place, and William would go up three places.

Some kind of civil motorsport case,

[marvin78]

But where is the proof?

[Jolle]

But where is the proof?

In the locked case of the FIA-Ferrari dossier. The obvious part are today’s times.

[marvin78]

But there is no proof. Just guessing.

[FittingMechanics]

I wonder if Mercedes expects such a tire wear advantage from DAS that they feel there is no need to start on mediums. Otherwise, why did they not do Q2 on mediums? They would have made it for sure, and strategy wise it is better to copy Max. (Cause they are clearly faster, so will beat him on same strategy)

Why should they copy Max? I'm sure Mercedes did a lot of calculations and knows what they believe is the fastest strategy. Max doesn't seem to be that much of a threat to Mercedes if they can pull a half second gap on a short track as this.