2020 Styrian Grand Prix - Spielberg, 10-12 July

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Jolle wrote:
Mon Jul 06, 2020 9:33 pm
f1316 wrote:
Mon Jul 06, 2020 9:11 pm
Yeah, I actually think rain will be a leveller for Ferrari given most of their lost time is in a straight line.
With that handling..... and the history of both drivers in the wet... nah... with rain it will be a Hamilton-Verstappen masterclass
Vettel is very well in the rain, you can ask Hamilton on Interlagos in 2008, where Vettel overtook him and almost made Ham lose the wdc (luckily for Hamilton Glock was there last corner). Or Vettel his first race win? In Monza during rain...
Where Vettel is not good in, is changing conditions.

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Jolle wrote:
Mon Jul 06, 2020 9:33 pm
f1316 wrote:
Mon Jul 06, 2020 9:11 pm
Yeah, I actually think rain will be a leveller for Ferrari given most of their lost time is in a straight line.
With that handling..... and the history of both drivers in the wet... nah... with rain it will be a Hamilton-Verstappen masterclass
Which history for Leclerc? He's been in F1 for 2 seasons. One of them in a midfield car and the second one in a dragster.
And to be honest, I also don't know how exactly Vettel is known for being bad in the wet.

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Gothrek wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 6:12 am
Vettel is very well in the rain, you can ask Hamilton on Interlagos in 2008, where Vettel overtook him and almost made Ham lose the wdc (luckily for Hamilton Glock was there last corner). Or Vettel his first race win? In Monza during rain...
Where Vettel is not good in, is changing conditions.
In recent years he's thrown away race wins and podium's by making silly mistakes in the wet.
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LM10 wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 6:14 am
Jolle wrote:
Mon Jul 06, 2020 9:33 pm
f1316 wrote:
Mon Jul 06, 2020 9:11 pm
Yeah, I actually think rain will be a leveller for Ferrari given most of their lost time is in a straight line.
With that handling..... and the history of both drivers in the wet... nah... with rain it will be a Hamilton-Verstappen masterclass
Which history for Leclerc? He's been in F1 for 2 seasons. One of them in a midfield car and the second one in a dragster.
And to be honest, I also don't know how exactly Vettel is known for being bad in the wet.
Leclerc pulled a stunning lap in Q2 of 2018 Brazil GP qualifying with Sauber. Team wanted him to abort as it was wetter than earlier and there was no chance of improving. But he insisted to go for one more lap and went for it and stunningly, improved to 7th place and went in Q1. Hockeinheim was just a honest mistake in a place where it was impossible for controlling the car in that last corner even with a small mistake.
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djos wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 6:21 am
Gothrek wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 6:12 am
Vettel is very well in the rain, you can ask Hamilton on Interlagos in 2008, where Vettel overtook him and almost made Ham lose the wdc (luckily for Hamilton Glock was there last corner). Or Vettel his first race win? In Monza during rain...
Where Vettel is not good in, is changing conditions.
In recent years he's thrown away race wins and podium's by making silly mistakes in the wet.
After Hockenheim last year you can claim this for everyone. There, surprisingly, Vettel did not make the error he did the year before.

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I’d have thought the high drag and downforce Ferrari would probably enjoy the rain to be honest.

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Tremendous to see F1 on free to air television.

I really hope Liberty see the importance and give some free to air coverage back to the UK. I wouldn’t mind Sky as much if they actually did an awesome job. Crofty is a really annoying commentator

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Mansell89 wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:43 pm
Tremendous to see F1 on free to air television.

I really hope Liberty see the importance and give some free to air coverage back to the UK. I wouldn’t mind Sky as much if they actually did an awesome job. Crofty is a really annoying commentator
I'd miss Brundle, but I'd happily never turn on Sky Sports again if I had an alternative. It's just so mind-numbingly, insultingly inane.

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Wynters wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:47 pm
Mansell89 wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:43 pm
Tremendous to see F1 on free to air television.

I really hope Liberty see the importance and give some free to air coverage back to the UK. I wouldn’t mind Sky as much if they actually did an awesome job. Crofty is a really annoying commentator
I'd miss Brundle, but I'd happily never turn on Sky Sports again if I had an alternative. It's just so mind-numbingly, insultingly inane.
Sums up my thoughts entirely.

Brundle is still the absolute centrepiece of F1 broadcasting but he needs a better team around him. Will always love him.

Been pleasantly surprised by Chandhok actually but not the rest.

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Last weekend's race was really exciting, at least the last half or so. It would be a real treat if the rain brings us another nail-biter of a race.
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basti313 wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 7:14 am
djos wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 6:21 am
Gothrek wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 6:12 am
Vettel is very well in the rain, you can ask Hamilton on Interlagos in 2008, where Vettel overtook him and almost made Ham lose the wdc (luckily for Hamilton Glock was there last corner). Or Vettel his first race win? In Monza during rain...
Where Vettel is not good in, is changing conditions.
In recent years he's thrown away race wins and podium's by making silly mistakes in the wet.
After Hockenheim last year you can claim this for everyone. There, surprisingly, Vettel did not make the error he did the year before.

That race was changing conditions by the minute and could of caught out any driver in f1 history..... I think they are talking full wet races where the track conditions aren’t going from dry to wet and back to dry.....

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I *hope* nobody has engine issues thats all i hope for. Because i know the Rain and driver shenanigans will make this an amazing race. I predict Grosjean spins out on his own. Thats obviously the only thing i think can be predicted because everything else is unpredictable'.
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etusch wrote:
Mon Jul 06, 2020 7:09 pm
Oh my God! This track looks very similar to the track last week race track.
Yea, it's just another Tilke-drome, they all look alike. :) :)

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Mansell89 wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:51 pm
Wynters wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:47 pm
Mansell89 wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:43 pm


Tremendous to see F1 on free to air television.

I really hope Liberty see the importance and give some free to air coverage back to the UK. I wouldn’t mind Sky as much if they actually did an awesome job. Crofty is a really annoying commentator
I'd miss Brundle, but I'd happily never turn on Sky Sports again if I had an alternative. It's just so mind-numbingly, insultingly inane.
Sums up my thoughts entirely.

Brundle is still the absolute centrepiece of F1 broadcasting but he needs a better team around him. Will always love him.

Been pleasantly surprised by Chandhok actually but not the rest.
I wasn't much of a Chandok fan as a driver, but he is obviously a student of F1 history and the current sport. He's impressed me much more since he became a commentator.