Lewis Hamilton dominated the Styrian Grand Prix from start to finish to take his first win of the season. Valtteri Bottas passed Verstappen for second in the closing stages, making for a perfect result for Mercedes AMG F1.
If FOM wants two-stop races, they should just make it mandatory to make two tyre pit-stops IMO. Easy fix.SmallSoldier wrote: ↑12 Jul 2020, 19:26More durable tires could lead to no-stop races, since if nursing them would allow to cover the pit time loss, then no one would do it... If they drop too much, they will be further nursed, if they don’t drop, they will still try to extent their stints as much as possible.
I don’t think that’s the intention (to force 2 stop races)... But my point is in regards to what we would like Pirelli to do, it doesn’t matter what they do, it will have issues and not necessarily help the spectacle... They are doing what they are requested by FIA.JordanMugen wrote:If FOM wants two-stop races, they should just make it mandatory to make two tyre pit-stops IMO. Easy fix.SmallSoldier wrote: ↑12 Jul 2020, 19:26More durable tires could lead to no-stop races, since if nursing them would allow to cover the pit time loss, then no one would do it... If they drop too much, they will be further nursed, if they don’t drop, they will still try to extent their stints as much as possible.
Just_a_fan wrote: ↑12 Jul 2020, 16:32Max showing Albon how to go around the outside of T4 without crashing.
No, Max gave Bottas room and used all of the track - Albon got greedy and tried to be a little too tight on the exit. 8 inches over to the left and Albon would have been by and on his way to attack Bottas for the lead. Max realises that if you go around the outside you have to make sure you give the guy inside a wide berth.sosic2121 wrote: ↑12 Jul 2020, 19:43Just_a_fan wrote: ↑12 Jul 2020, 16:32Max showing Albon how to go around the outside of T4 without crashing.
Isn't it Bottas showing someone else how to "live to fight another day"
The Merc are winning races while underfueling, the tires are definitely what holds them back in the race. They are lifting and coasting to lower the load on the tires and to recharge the batteries.Just_a_fan wrote: ↑12 Jul 2020, 19:43Could a car be driven flat out to the limit of the tyres with the current fuel usage restrictions? All very well saying "we want tyres that can be driven hard for a full stint" if the car will be lift and coasting for half the race anyway to stay within the fuel limits.
The only way to 'spice' up the strategies is to minimize teams ability to gather info. Prevent data monitoring during the race for example and minimize FP time to give them less data to work with. Less data to analyse means it will be harder to accurately predict tyre performance come race day. Plus two weekends at the same track with the same compounds and very similar conditions on both days come race day you end up with converging strategies as their tyre performance database is effectively doubled.SmallSoldier wrote: ↑12 Jul 2020, 19:26It doesn’t matter what Pirelli does, at the end the strategies will always be fairly similar... With so many smart people on the teams and the amount of data they have and process, most teams will usually converge on a similar strategy in regards to the fastest overall time for the whole race.
More durable tires could lead to no-stop races, since if nursing them would allow to cover the pit time loss, then no one would do it... If they drop too much, they will be further nursed, if they don’t drop, they will still try to extent their stints as much as possible.
Consideration also need to be given to save PU components and gearbox. So it's never going to be flat out. At least not at the sharp end. The fun is all in the mid field. We don't hear anyone crying about tyres getting hotter while following or being unable to follow. The only thing that bothers midfield is temperature issues for PU.Just_a_fan wrote: ↑12 Jul 2020, 19:43Could a car be driven flat out to the limit of the tyres with the current fuel usage restrictions? All very well saying "we want tyres that can be driven hard for a full stint" if the car will be lift and coasting for half the race anyway to stay within the fuel limits.
I don't know if trying to make teams fail is good for the sport, just out a principle viewpoint. Plus, if real life data isn't provided, the big teams will have computer models up and running in no-time to be miles ahead of the other teams.Mamba wrote: ↑12 Jul 2020, 19:48The only way to 'spice' up the strategies is to minimize teams ability to gather info. Prevent data monitoring during the race for example and minimize FP time to give them less data to work with. Less data to analyse means it will be harder to accurately predict tyre performance come race day. Plus two weekends at the same track with the same compounds and very similar conditions on both days come race day you end up with converging strategies as their tyre performance database is effectively doubled.SmallSoldier wrote: ↑12 Jul 2020, 19:26It doesn’t matter what Pirelli does, at the end the strategies will always be fairly similar... With so many smart people on the teams and the amount of data they have and process, most teams will usually converge on a similar strategy in regards to the fastest overall time for the whole race.
More durable tires could lead to no-stop races, since if nursing them would allow to cover the pit time loss, then no one would do it... If they drop too much, they will be further nursed, if they don’t drop, they will still try to extent their stints as much as possible.
I agree. The best way is to allow the cars to race closely like the 2022 regs will hopefully allow. MotoGP has shown us how unpredictable race outcomes can be with good tyrelife management and the ability to follow closely the entire race. Plenty of unpredictable results often with no tyre compound difference between the runners.
Traffic
No traffic on his last lap, it was the penultimate lap which had 4 back markers, he overtook them before the last corner in the penultimate lap
