2020 Styrian Grand Prix - Spielberg, 10-12 July

[Pyrone89]

Do we know why Verstappen didn't manage to beat Sainz's time? By the look of it he was more than half-a-second slower. Traffic? Reliability? No DRS?

Traffic

No traffic on his last lap, it was the penultimate lap which had 4 back markers, he overtook them before the last corner in the penultimate lap

Depends on if he had to use his battery for that and/if he was busy keeping that damaged RB16 on track to begin with.

[MtthsMlw]

[Big Tea]

So does that mean they do not have access to the cars to ship and prepare for next week?

[MtthsMlw]

So does that mean they do not have access to the cars to ship and prepare for next week?

It's the front and rear brake ducts. They should have a couple of them
https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files ... rotest.pdf

[Just_a_fan]

Okay, so Bottas pushed Verstappen off the track on the exit of the corner during his first overtake. Verstappen is the faster car and ahead...but no penalty.

So Perez pushes Albon off the track on the exit of the corner. Albon is the faster car and ahead and they contact...but no penalty.

So Stroll pushes Ricciardo so wide that Stroll himself drives completely off the track costing Ricciardo two places...but no penalty.

F***ing Stewards.

Stroll pushed Norris on to the kerbs in T4 too. No penalty.

Funny how penalties follow the title race at times. Almost like someone is trying engineer excitement over the season.

[Restomaniac]

So in other words Renault are going to try and prove that RP have internals from the W10. Smart if it’s true as how can RP explain that away?

[sosic2121]

Okay, so Bottas pushed Verstappen off the track on the exit of the corner during his first overtake. Verstappen is the faster car and ahead...but no penalty.

So Perez pushes Albon off the track on the exit of the corner. Albon is the faster car and ahead and they contact...but no penalty.

So Stroll pushes Ricciardo so wide that Stroll himself drives completely off the track costing Ricciardo two places...but no penalty.

F***ing Stewards.

I can't comment on first 2 situations (because I don't know what happened ), but Stroll on Ric was IMO a dive bomb and should be penalised.

[komninosm]

I still dont understand why the tyres lat so long
Why cant they bring softer tyres ?

I don't see the issue with having tyres that last. People are always complaining that Pirelli tyres are too fragile! So isn't it better that the tyres are hard and durable, and don't need to be nursed?

The tires last, but only if you are easy on them. Push them hard and they will overheat and lose massive grip. Unfortunately they might last all race, but only when cruising.

F1 needs tires that can pushed hard in order make alternate strategies possible

Exactly. The tires should degrade, they should not overheat. Let them push when they want and for how long they want.
Also the fuel limit makes teams cruise a lot too. We need to bring refueling back during pit stops as this will make strategies with more pit stops much stronger without idiotic artificial requirements for pitting 2 times or whatever.

[komninosm]

Okay, so Bottas pushed Verstappen off the track on the exit of the corner during his first overtake. Verstappen is the faster car and ahead...but no penalty.

So Perez pushes Albon off the track on the exit of the corner. Albon is the faster car and ahead and they contact...but no penalty.

So Stroll pushes Ricciardo so wide that Stroll himself drives completely off the track costing Ricciardo two places...but no penalty.

F***ing Stewards.

Stroll pushed Norris on to the kerbs in T4 too. No penalty.

Funny how penalties follow the title race at times. Almost like someone is trying engineer excitement over the season.

Not even a black/white flag.
That flag is still a thing, right?
They didn't use them all up last year?

[El Scorchio]

Okay, so Bottas pushed Verstappen off the track on the exit of the corner during his first overtake. Verstappen is the faster car and ahead...but no penalty.

So Perez pushes Albon off the track on the exit of the corner. Albon is the faster car and ahead and they contact...but no penalty.

So Stroll pushes Ricciardo so wide that Stroll himself drives completely off the track costing Ricciardo two places...but no penalty.

F***ing Stewards.

Stroll pushed Norris on to the kerbs in T4 too. No penalty.

Funny how penalties follow the title race at times. Almost like someone is trying engineer excitement over the season.

Not even a black/white flag.
That flag is still a thing, right?
They didn't use them all up last year?

Interesting isn’t it. The ‘brand new thing’ to help with the racing came out once, where it prevented a Ferrari at Monza getting a penalty and preserved a victory then it’s never been used in similar manner again to my knowledge.

Someone cynical might wonder about that...

[LM10]

So in other words Renault are going to try and prove that RP have internals from the W10. Smart if it’s true as how can RP explain that away?

What do you mean with “RP have internals from the W10”? It IS the W10.

On another note, it's cool Racing Point's only job in winter break was to repaint the W10. This gives us the opportunity to evaluate the progress of the new cars by directly comparing them to winner car of 2019.

[Manoah2u]

So in other words Renault are going to try and prove that RP have internals from the W10. Smart if it’s true as how can RP explain that away?

What do you mean with “RP have internals from the W10”? It IS the W10.

Funniest of it all is that quite frankly, brake ducts are one of the most adaptable parts on the car, so i'm expecting a total clean report here from the FIA. Hell, even if the RP is a 1:1 copy of the Abu Dhabi W10, then all Merc has to do is send an Aussie spec brake duct and we'll get a 'nothing to see here'.
Matter of fact, Mercedes has a score to settle with FIA over the suspicious FIA & Ferrari secret deal, so i'm inclined to feel that even IF the RP brake duct turns out to be a 1:1 copy, it'll be in both RP and Merc's favour in the end anyway.

It's really a meaningless move from Renault to be honest. RP is not gonna run a carbon copy car if it would get them caught, and Mercedes would not be giving them the blueprints as it would completely destroy their scot-free reputation right now for what?

Is there more to it? Yeah, no doubt about it. Not even a blind person would buy that the RP is just a 'successfull insipration' from the W10, and Mercedes apparant silence on the matter (after all, they aren't sueing RP for copy infringement of any sorts) only adds fuel to the fire. Somehow I think there somebody was given permission to 'randomly' make some USB stick copies from certain computer data, and somehow that same person also ended up at a RP connection. Whether that is actually 'part of the plan' if Mercedes shockingly would be intending to leave the sport and continue in an Aston Martin fashion with RP and TOTO ends up there, is just one of a thousand colourful ideas that can be thrown at it.

But let's be honest here.

this will yield NO result, whatsoever.

Renault can cry all they want, when Mclaren has the same engine but is doing a better job, then you should not be focusing on nifty RP moves, you should work on yourself.

[Restomaniac]

So in other words Renault are going to try and prove that RP have internals from the W10. Smart if it’s true as how can RP explain that away?

What do you mean with “RP have internals from the W10”? It IS the W10.

On another note, it's cool Racing Point's only job in winter break was to repaint the W10. This gives us the opportunity to evaluate the progress of the new cars by directly comparing them to winner car of 2019.

I know but Renault want it clear so they can get RP out of the way.

[Manoah2u]

Regarding the race though. I am severly impressed with Lando Norris.

AND, i am quite shocked about Russell's performance in the Williams. He got that car into moves that are quite frankly impossible. Which in the end unfortuantely ended up being so as something went wrong and the car seemingly ended up where it 'belonged'. Still, very impressed with Russell in the Williams not only during qually but also in the race managing to overtake.
In all the doom and gloom, there is still hope there.

[Restomaniac]

So in other words Renault are going to try and prove that RP have internals from the W10. Smart if it’s true as how can RP explain that away?

What do you mean with “RP have internals from the W10”? It IS the W10.

Funniest of it all is that quite frankly, brake ducts are one of the most adaptable parts on the car, so i'm expecting a total clean report here from the FIA. Hell, even if the RP is a 1:1 copy of the Abu Dhabi W10, then all Merc has to do is send an Aussie spec brake duct and we'll get a 'nothing to see here'.
Matter of fact, Mercedes has a score to settle with FIA over the suspicious FIA & Ferrari secret deal, so i'm inclined to feel that even IF the RP brake duct turns out to be a 1:1 copy, it'll be in both RP and Merc's favour in the end anyway.

It's really a meaningless move from Renault to be honest. RP is not gonna run a carbon copy car if it would get them caught, and Mercedes would not be giving them the blueprints as it would completely destroy their scot-free reputation right now for what?

Is there more to it? Yeah, no doubt about it. Not even a blind person would buy that the RP is just a 'successfull insipration' from the W10, and Mercedes apparant silence on the matter (after all, they aren't sueing RP for copy infringement of any sorts) only adds fuel to the fire. Somehow I think there somebody was given permission to 'randomly' make some USB stick copies from certain computer data, and somehow that same person also ended up at a RP connection. Whether that is actually 'part of the plan' if Mercedes shockingly would be intending to leave the sport and continue in an Aston Martin fashion with RP and TOTO ends up there, is just one of a thousand colourful ideas that can be thrown at it.

But let's be honest here.

this will yield NO result, whatsoever.

Renault can cry all they want, when Mclaren has the same engine but is doing a better job, then you should not be focusing on nifty RP moves, you should work on yourself.

Indeed. Renault seem to be trying to get to the bottom of a similar rabbit hole as RedBull. Both would be better just focusing on their own stuff instead of looking elsewhere.