2020 Hungarian Grand Prix - Hungaroring, July 17-19

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Unc1eM0nty wrote:
20 Jul 2020, 15:50
Bottas started in 2nd gear, did anyone else ?
I saw 2nd on Hamiltons wheel but his hand covered it after a while
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Unc1eM0nty wrote:
20 Jul 2020, 15:50
Bottas started in 2nd gear, did anyone else ?
Fairly common in the wet. Go back to Singapore 2017, everyone remembers the carnage and credits that with Lewis going from fifth to first, but watch his onboards, he started in second and would have had a brilliant start even without the carnage.

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I am fairly certain Lewis started in 2nd too. ORF made a comment about it seconds before the lights went out.
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Phil wrote:
20 Jul 2020, 16:55
I am fairly certain Lewis started in 2nd too. ORF made a comment about it seconds before the lights went out.
Lewis did. They had his in car on while he was expressing concern about the engine. Then he shifted to 2nd before cutting away to show the start.

Pretty common for most stuff. Always started in second on dirtbikes and autocrossing (from a dead stop). Obviously autocrossing was a street car, but dirtbikes you do it because you would wheelie. Easier, more consistent, and faster to start higher and drag the clutch longer. Superbikes are no different and why a few red flags / restarts means a lot of clutch failures.

All of our starts in road racing in the US are rolling starts, so 1st gear is usually just a "pit" gear. 2nd is your low speed gear on track.

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Bottas just isn’t aggressive or decisive enough when he needs to be. The Verstappens or Hamiltons or Vettels of this world would have scythed through the back markers and made up the time.

That’s the difference between a very good driver and a top driver.

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El Scorchio wrote:
20 Jul 2020, 15:59
Also a very clean race weekend on here. Again a nice change!
I believe the mods did a lot of work mid-week to get various topics and individuals inline with what is expected.
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El Scorchio wrote:
20 Jul 2020, 17:39
Bottas just isn’t aggressive or decisive enough when he needs to be. The Verstappens or Hamiltons or Vettels of this world would have scythed through the back markers and made up the time.

That’s the difference between a very good driver and a top driver.
His engineer should have said do 17s instead of 18.5 he always needs a bit of a kick in the butt when he is behind he will win when he starts in lead but when its catch up he spends 20 laps not gaining enough

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maxxer wrote:
20 Jul 2020, 20:50
El Scorchio wrote:
20 Jul 2020, 17:39
Bottas just isn’t aggressive or decisive enough when he needs to be. The Verstappens or Hamiltons or Vettels of this world would have scythed through the back markers and made up the time.

That’s the difference between a very good driver and a top driver.
His engineer should have said do 17s instead of 18.5 he always needs a bit of a kick in the butt when he is behind he will win when he starts in lead but when its catch up he spends 20 laps not gaining enough
He is a stark contrast to Lewis. I didn't hear valtteri say anything over the radio, last year with almost the same gap and number of laps remaining Lewis was second guessing the strategy before even got out of the pits.
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maxxer wrote:
20 Jul 2020, 20:50
El Scorchio wrote:
20 Jul 2020, 17:39
Bottas just isn’t aggressive or decisive enough when he needs to be. The Verstappens or Hamiltons or Vettels of this world would have scythed through the back markers and made up the time.

That’s the difference between a very good driver and a top driver.
His engineer should have said do 17s instead of 18.5 he always needs a bit of a kick in the butt when he is behind he will win when he starts in lead but when its catch up he spends 20 laps not gaining enough
His target was good it was that he ran out of steam when he got within 6 seconds or so. Maybe he burnt out his tyres or lost concentration or something.
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That Vettel fellow isn't doing too poorly! All that talk of Leclerc thrashing him.. been even in their time together.
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Hungary is a Vettel track that's why.
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I want to see Vettel make a comeback this year. Last year I was rooting for Leclerc. This year I'm on Vettel's side. Hoping he can show other teams that he is still worth investing on.

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Sieper wrote:
20 Jul 2020, 12:04
Leclerc did have a blistering fast start from the right hand side.
He just passed Perez and Bottas, just Perez on merit (Bottas failed), both of them in the dirty side of the grid, and got passed by Max. I´d not call that a blistering fast start

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mertol wrote:
20 Jul 2020, 11:21
So jumpstart detection system doing jack --- again #-o
I think it would have been extremelly unfair to punish Bottas. Common sense should always be applied, jump start detection is mean to avoid any driver taking advantage of a jump start, but going from 2nd to 6th none can argue he got any advantage

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