2020 Belgian Grand Prix - Spa-Francorchamps, August 28 - 30

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djones wrote:
28 Aug 2020, 14:06
I'm really confused from the mixed news stories....

Is the new engine mode rule in place?
Not yet. It will be from Monza on.

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yelistener wrote:
28 Aug 2020, 02:34
godlameroso wrote:
27 Aug 2020, 14:19

Spa also got a fresh coat of tarmac for 2018.
Any source for that? I don't remember that. I did a quick search on google and found nothing.
It wasn't done for F1. It was done for the 24h race.
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godlameroso wrote:
28 Aug 2020, 14:29
yelistener wrote:
28 Aug 2020, 02:34
godlameroso wrote:
27 Aug 2020, 14:19

Spa also got a fresh coat of tarmac for 2018.
Any source for that? I don't remember that. I did a quick search on google and found nothing.
It wasn't done for F1. It was done for the 24h race.
I still found nothing on internet reporting or mentioning this resurface thing.

And frankly I don't buy it either. The laptime improvement doesn't really support that, unless they did a bad resurface job like Silverston 2018.

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yelistener wrote:
28 Aug 2020, 14:37
And frankly I don't buy it either. The laptime improvement doesn't really support that, unless they did a bad resurface job like Silverston 2018.
https://www.f1supernews.com/2018/09/30/ ... surfacing/
Ahead of this year’s grand prix, parts of the circuit were resurfaced.

Those include a patch just before Turn 1, the approach to Turn 8 and the area on which the top two drivers on the grid line up.

That section stretches into P3’s grid box but only partially.
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yelistener wrote:
28 Aug 2020, 14:37
godlameroso wrote:
28 Aug 2020, 14:29
yelistener wrote:
28 Aug 2020, 02:34


Any source for that? I don't remember that. I did a quick search on google and found nothing.
It wasn't done for F1. It was done for the 24h race.
I still found nothing on internet reporting or mentioning this resurface thing.

And frankly I don't buy it either. The laptime improvement doesn't really support that, unless they did a bad resurface job like Silverston 2018.
Facts don't care about your ability to use search engines.
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Was a little worried in FP1 about the Mercedes not being far out front. Not so much now, Mercedes less than a tenth off fastest right now, but losing best part of a second on the straights. They have that car turned waaaaaaay down .
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godlameroso wrote:
28 Aug 2020, 15:19
yelistener wrote:
28 Aug 2020, 14:37
godlameroso wrote:
28 Aug 2020, 14:29


It wasn't done for F1. It was done for the 24h race.
I still found nothing on internet reporting or mentioning this resurface thing.

And frankly I don't buy it either. The laptime improvement doesn't really support that, unless they did a bad resurface job like Silverston 2018.
Facts don't care about your ability to use search engines.
The smugness :lol: they repaved a single corner worth mentioning, rest of the track is the same, yet you put it like they redid the whole track silverstone 2019 style. Get a grip.

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Juzh wrote:
28 Aug 2020, 15:59
godlameroso wrote:
28 Aug 2020, 15:19
yelistener wrote:
28 Aug 2020, 14:37


I still found nothing on internet reporting or mentioning this resurface thing.

And frankly I don't buy it either. The laptime improvement doesn't really support that, unless they did a bad resurface job like Silverston 2018.
Facts don't care about your ability to use search engines.
The smugness :lol: they repaved a single corner worth mentioning, rest of the track is the same, yet you put it like they redid the whole track silverstone 2019 style. Get a grip.
Which corner was it?

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Crazy how much Ferrari looses In S2, S1 and S3 are alright though.
I'd put on more downforce.

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MtthsMlw wrote:
28 Aug 2020, 16:32
Crazy how much Ferrari looses In S2, S1 and S3 are alright though.
I'd put on more downforce.
Probably wanting to not be blown by on the straights, keep cars behind on the twisties.
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yelistener wrote:
28 Aug 2020, 16:06
Juzh wrote:
28 Aug 2020, 15:59
godlameroso wrote:
28 Aug 2020, 15:19


Facts don't care about your ability to use search engines.
The smugness :lol: they repaved a single corner worth mentioning, rest of the track is the same, yet you put it like they redid the whole track silverstone 2019 style. Get a grip.
Which corner was it?
I responded to you a few posts back with an article and a quote that listed everything that was resurfaced (not much).
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Big Tea wrote:
26 Aug 2020, 16:19
What if all the engine makers leave?
Cosworth V12 for everybody. =D>

They already built a nice 3.9L 65-degree V12 for Gordon Murray Automotive, with 653 @ 11,500rpm with 60,000 mile rebuild interval.

Put pneumatic valves on it, up the rev limit to make 1020hp @ 18,000rpm, lower the rebuild interval to 5,000 miles (obviously strengthening the bottom end as appropriate) and you have yourself a great racing engine. :D

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JordanMugen wrote:
28 Aug 2020, 17:59
Big Tea wrote:
26 Aug 2020, 16:19
What if all the engine makers leave?
Cosworth V12 for everybody. =D>

They already built a nice 3.9L 65-degree V12 for Gordon Murray Automotive, with 653 @ 11,500rpm with 60,000 mile rebuild interval.

Put pneumatic valves on it, up the rev limit to make 1020hp @ 18,000rpm, lower the rebuild interval to 5,000 miles (obviously strengthening the bottom end as appropriate) and you have yourself a great racing engine. :D
Erm, they have to make one in line with the F1 regs for the year. FIA/F1 will not change just because there are no engines :mrgreen:
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ENGINE TUNER wrote:
25 Aug 2020, 18:58
Yes it is difficult because pirelli are incompetent. ... And NOBODY ever asked them to make "degrading" wet tire, they just can't do better.
The-Race.com put up a nice article noting the Pirelli tyres are designed and made to a tight budget, as most of Pirelli's F1 expenditures is for advertising costs. They pay to be the supplier, that payment includes all the trackside advertising hoardings and so on, and then they supply the actual tyres to F1 teams for free AFAIK.

Whereas Michelin and Bridgestone were of course in a competition, so they spent a lot more on R&D, furthermore tail-end teams like Minardi had to actually pay for their tyres.

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Big Tea wrote:
28 Aug 2020, 18:02
JordanMugen wrote:
28 Aug 2020, 17:59
Big Tea wrote:
26 Aug 2020, 16:19
What if all the engine makers leave?
Cosworth V12 for everybody. =D>
Erm, they have to make one in line with the F1 regs for the year. FIA/F1 will not change just because there are no engines :mrgreen:
Boooooooo! :evil: