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RACE SETUP

Returning to Italy with Scuderia AlphaTauri, we are reminded of all that we have achieved with our Faenza friends, on this, our fiftieth grand prix together. Historic, spectacular and incredibly fast – our main aim at Monza for the weekend will be tuning our power unit to get everything out of it around this speed dependent track. We have always received such a warm welcome arriving here, so not to have the masses of fans in the grandstands will certainly change the atmosphere from what we're used to. We’ll be pushing for a strong Sunday with both teams, as a worthy celebration for this special weekend.

TOYOHARU TANABE
TECHNICAL DIRECTOR, HONDA F1

After another podium finish in Spa, we come to the second race in this third and high-speed triple-header of the season, the Italian Grand Prix. The Monza track is all about high speed and low downforce and PU power output will once again be an important factor. This is the first race where the FIA’s new restrictions regarding the use of different PU modes comes into effect. In the past two weeks we have studied the implications of these changes in great detail. They are highly complex and therefore we have been in constant communication with the FIA to ensure that we comply fully with the new technical directive. We will not know exactly how this change will affect all the PU manufacturers until we can actually run on track. It is an important change, but our aim of always optimising the PU over the course of a race weekend remains the same. The Italian GP is the home race for Scuderia AlphaTauri and this will be the fiftieth Grand Prix of our partnership, a milestone in our history. Joining with what was then Scuderia Toro Rosso in 2018, meant starting the project from scratch and we have gradually made progress together, scoring two podium finishes last year. It’s not an exaggeration to say that the results we have achieved so far would not have been possible without their input. In this our third year together, everyone at Honda continues to enjoy working with this very welcoming team, full of Italian passion. The Italian Grand Prix will be an important race in many ways for us and we will be pushing as hard as usual to get the best possible result with both our teams.

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Honda do seem genuinely fond of STR :-)

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bigblue wrote:
Thu Sep 03, 2020 11:40 am
Honda do seem genuinely fond of STR :-)
and I like that.

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Yes, certainly. And they have been from the very beginning.

Possibly the Honda works team in a distant future?
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Sieper wrote:
Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:17 pm
Possibly the Honda works team in a distant future?
I hope not. That takes too much money and Honda is always thinking about quitting the sport.

Marko urgently needs Tsunoda to move up to F1 to keep Honda in the sport.
I think it is the main priority now in RB

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They will. I think. He is looking quite good in F2 too. It is hard to understand him though, when he is speaking.

Just a feeling I always had as Honda always go out of their way to include SAT in their updates.
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etusch wrote:
Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:13 pm
bigblue wrote:
Thu Sep 03, 2020 11:40 am
Honda do seem genuinely fond of STR :-)
and I like that.
It's thanks to the wise minds of Tost, Berger, and Tanabe and the history of respect they have had. It was a stark change from Boullier and McLaren.

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bigblue wrote:
Thu Sep 03, 2020 11:40 am
Honda do seem genuinely fond of STR :-)
it looks like they signed a bigger marketing agreement with them. Since 2018 AT is actually "Honda's Team" in the partnership. Majority of their honda F1 team merchandise has AT on it.

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This Behind the Scenes insight is only available on the Japanese version of the website:
https://ja.hondaracingf1.com/insights/b ... und03.html
The focus is on battery development and the challenges of Honda developing their own battery system. Honda continues to develop the battery system and has been working around the Covid restrictions on ensuring team communication for remote employees doesn't hinder battery development. Only a handful of employees are able to physically be in the workplace developing the batteries, and communication technologies and an increased focus on improving English language competency has been key areas during the Covid era.

For those interested in Honda's past development of their PU KERS, battery storage, ERS from the time they were working on the RA1089, the following PDF is very insightful. It talks about the numerous systems and layouts they had to adapt after having a number of systems denied by the FIA, but also later allowed after Honda requested consideration. Many lessons learned then likely weren't forgotten, and maybe some had to be re-learned as well.

http://f1-forecast.com/pdf/F1-Files/Hon ... P2_29e.pdf
Mind you, these are from Honda's 3rd Era of Formula 1 but many learnings made then may still apply now. Here are the best bits of the PDF:
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ispano6 wrote:
Thu Sep 03, 2020 6:29 pm
This Behind the Scenes insight is only available on the Japanese version of the website:
https://ja.hondaracingf1.com/insights/b ... und03.html
The focus is on battery development and the challenges of Honda developing their own battery system. Honda continues to develop the battery system and has been working around the Covid restrictions on ensuring team communication for remote employees doesn't hinder battery development. Only a handful of employees are able to physically be in the workplace developing the batteries, and communication technologies and an increased focus on improving English language competency has been key areas during the Covid era.

For those interested in Honda's past development of their PU KERS, battery storage, ERS from the time they were working on the RA1089, the following PDF is very insightful. It talks about the numerous systems and layouts they had to adapt after having a number of systems denied by the FIA, but also later allowed after Honda requested consideration. Many lessons learned then likely weren't forgotten, and maybe some had to be re-learned as well.

http://f1-forecast.com/pdf/F1-Files/Hon ... P2_29e.pdf
Mind you, these are from Honda's 3rd Era of Formula 1 but many learnings made then may still apply now. Here are the best bits of the PDF:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Vfjb ... -09-03.png
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-gakO ... -09-03.png
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-03Qj ... -09-03.png
That's a very good way of representing it in graphic form. To see it making a cars length of difference gives it a real 'feel' of what is being gained. Just figures are not so easy to visualise.
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That battery location always seemed like an odd choice.
Honda!

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Well done Honda and Alpha Tauri