Rules for a new F1 engine?

[xpensive]

I tried to find an existing thread on this subject but failed, so excuse me if I bring up an old subject.
If someone, stupid enough, would like to enter F1 in 2010 or so with a new engine of their own design, how does the "engine-freeze" rule apply? Can they develop it freely, under the given envelope of course, until they believe they have enough power and then take it to the FIA, or is this possibility closed now?

[Conceptual]

With the Cosworth standard engine on the table, I imagine all attempts to bring a new engine in would be shot down. Afterall, Cosworth still has a homologated engine available.

[Ciro Pabón]

I think this is the answer:

ENGINE HOMOLOGATION

1. A homologated engine is an engine identical in every respect to either :

blah, blah, blah...

(iii) An engine delivered to the FIA after 1 March 2007, or modified and re-delivered to the FIA after 1 March 2007, which the FIA is satisfied, in its absolute discretion and after full consultation with all other suppliers of engines for the Championship, could fairly and equitably be allowed to compete with other homologated engines.

blah, blah, blah

3. The FIA, in consultation with the TWG and the engine suppliers, will from time to time issue indicative information as to the tests and inspection procedures to be applied.

So, you can submit a new engine and the Technical Working Group at FIA will tell you if you can compete with it.

About "someone, stupid enough... to enter F1 in 2010", well, "to hope is to contradict the future".

[xpensive]

Most interesting, "full consultation with all other suppliers of engines"? So, you're supposed to first develop the new powerplant and if it's not too good for the competition, the FIA might allow you to compete?

By the way, I wonder where the FIA got such governing ideas, it reminds me of, what's the term again...yes, corporatism! Have to consult Wikipedia on that one though.

[timbo]

Most interesting, "full consultation with all other suppliers of engines"? So, you're supposed to first develop the new powerplant and if it's not too good for the competition, the FIA might allow you to compete?

So, you think that someone will show up with 1500hp engine, TWG would not approve, but FIA will let him on the grid anyway because that team "first developed the new powerplant"?
Well, I'm doing reductio ad absurdum on that one, but don't you think it is the deal of the new comer to show up and learn what his engine is supposed to be before creating it? Right now we have limited displacement, revs and most probably equalised (and known to TWG) hp figures so that won't be that they hve no guidelines.

[xpensive]

I'm afraid you misunderstand, my question is what the competitors have to do with the homologization of a new engine.

[timbo]

I'm afraid you misunderstand, my question is what the competitors have to do with the homologization of a new engine.

I commented on your answer to Ciro, who have answered your question already.

[xpensive]

But seriously Ciro, does it mean that the other engine-suppliers will have a say on whether FIA should allow a new F1 engine, even if it complies with the technical regulations?