Phil wrote: ↑
Fri Sep 18, 2020 1:12 pm
Andres125sx wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 19, 2020 11:56 am
Then he goes on. The part where I finally unsubscribed was the environement part.... when he does not even touch the environement part but analyse a simple marketing point of view
. His argument is, since manufacturers sell a 10% of EV and a 90% of ICE, it´s more efficient to improve ICE. Yeah but, who said that percentage will remain in next years? If he´s really analysing the environmental point of view.... shouldn´t he at least mention the toxic substances and emissions?
He addressed the elephant in the room: economic viability. It's about the manufacturers and finding the right incentives. That EVs make out a small fraction of total sold cars is a reality and will continue to be a reality for the next decades. Therefore, from the POV of a car manufacturer, it's more efficient to invest in optimizing ICEs (because they've been inherently inefficient for years, thus still have room for improvement) and this investment also has a more positive effect on the overall environment because the smaller improvements there carry more weight in sheer numbers than the few EVs that are being sold.
Investing into future technologies (EVs) is expensive, not all car manufacturers can afford. He also mentions that price point is very important and crucial and in some markets, it's just not viable to invest into EV technology (yet).
Of course for EV manufacturers, it's great to improve the technology, get batteries smaller, increase energy density etc. They are selling their cars on this premise. For most car manufacturers that either don't have EVs yet or don't sell a lot of them, it becomes a question of where to invest into. ICE cars will continue to be sold and governments will continue to enforce lower emission thresholds, forcing ICE manufacturers to increase efficiency.
I see your point, and agree at some extent. But economic viability is very different to environment. I agree for a car manufacturer like Renault, BMW, etc. it´s more efficient to improve ICE than EV, but that has no relationship with environement at all, that is, as you say, economic viability/efficiency
Investing into future technologies (EVs) is expensive, not all car manufacturers can afford
I´m afraid I have to strongly disagree with this single sentence. We see EV all around because it´s exactly the opposite, any small company can develop an EV today, so big petrol companies no longer can purchase patents to avoid the invention seeing the light. Today any small company can produce an EV, that´s the reason there are a lot of new companies with no previous experience in car/motorcycle world manufaturing electric vehicles.
Since nowadays any small company can produce an EV, now big companies can´t stop it anymore. If you can´t beat them, join them