2020 Russian Grand Prix - Sochi Autodrom, September 25 - 27

[siskue2005]

Bottas giving it to ‘his critics’ odd thing to say when you win by default instead of doing it on track

He did it on track. To be fair what goes around, comes around. When Lewis won by default in Silverstone 2019 nobody said it was by default. Ordered to slow in Singapore to prevent Lewis from falling in to the undercut, Ordered to let Lewis past in the this very GP in 2018. He has his fair share of humiliating team orders and wins lost when through no fault of is own.

If you go through previous race threads, u can clearly see every haters coming out and saying those wins were by default and he didnt deserve it.

it is true that Lewis got a win from Bottas in 2018, so in that sense it is setting a balance. (karma)

[LM10]

Hamilton has himself to blame. He didn't have to be 'smart' and try a practise start in a different place; especially at a time when they're looking for every little thing to penalize him. Also, his unnecessary mistake at the final corner in Q2 , which ultimately forced him into softs, compromising his race.

So what's with this made up story about Hamilton being the poor driver having to deal with a team making strategical decisions against him, the FIA penalizing him for "every little thing" and the whole world hating him?
Why are you trying to give the impression of Hamilton being a lonely fighter having to fight really hard to survive?

[Mattyw]

Bottas giving it to ‘his critics’ odd thing to say when you win by default instead of doing it on track

He did it on track. To be fair what goes around, comes around. When Lewis won by default in Silverstone 2019 nobody said it was by default. Ordered to slow in Singapore to prevent Lewis from falling in to the undercut, Ordered to let Lewis past in the this very GP in 2018. He has his fair share of humiliating team orders and wins lost when through no fault of is own.

He didn’t? He drove past Lewis whilst he was stationary for 10 seconds in his box.

My point was if you want to prove ‘your critics’ wrong you need to overtake him on track, or out qualify him in the first place - he did neither.

[Sieper]

Redbull first top 3 start and finish here, against the strongest Merc in years. Class drive by Max. Also as he had to re overtake Ric on his red tires after the start. Hamilton wanting to do 2 practice starts cost him, next to having to start on the reds of course.

[siskue2005]

Hamilton has himself to blame. He didn't have to be 'smart' and try a practise start in a different place; especially at a time when they're looking for every little thing to penalize him. Also, his unnecessary mistake at the final corner in Q2 , which ultimately forced him into softs, compromising his race.

So what's with this made up story about Hamilton being the poor driver having to deal with a team making strategical decisions against him, the FIA penalizing him for "every little thing" and the whole world hating him?
Why are you trying to give the impression of Hamilton being a lonely fighter having to fight really hard to survive?

So that it will bring out the haters from the woods, it will take next race and a win for them to go back again!

[Wynters]

Yeah the next points to expire are mid-November from last year's Brazilian Grand Prix. He's racked up 10 points this season already.

I'd say a race ban at some stage is quite likely, even if he makes it past November, as the next points to expire are July next year.

I suspect Mercedes will look to serve it this year, assuming Hamilton leads the WDC by more than 25 points at the final race.

As to today, if Mercedes/Hamilton don't want the stewards interfering, don't give them the chance to interfere. Although, judging from their strategy today...

Great drive from Leclerc, again. Great drive from Perez too.

Sad for Stroll, would've been interesting to see what he could've done with Hamilton so compromised. Also intrigued to learn that being punted into the wall doesn't merit a penalty for the punter.

Carlos...

Nice to see some actual overtaking in Russia, but the Stewards' ruling on having to weave through those bollards took no account of the angles cars might find themselves in, once they'd finished bouncing off the kerbs. If everyone is breaking the rule, perhaps it's a stupid rule. On the plus side, at least they didn't Red Flag the session due to polystyrene on the track (although I assume they're updating the rules even now).

[dans79]

Hamilton has himself to blame. He didn't have to be 'smart' and try a practise start in a different place; especially at a time when they're looking for every little thing to penalize him. Also, his unnecessary mistake at the final corner in Q2 , which ultimately forced him into softs, compromising his race.

So what's with this made up story about Hamilton being the poor driver having to deal with a team making strategical decisions against him, the FIA penalizing him for "every little thing" and the whole world hating him?
Why are you trying to give the impression of Hamilton being a lonely fighter having to fight really hard to survive?

So that it will bring out the haters from the woods, it will take next race and a win for them to go back again!

For some reason I have some random song about milkshakes playing in my head!

[LM10]

Hamilton has himself to blame. He didn't have to be 'smart' and try a practise start in a different place; especially at a time when they're looking for every little thing to penalize him. Also, his unnecessary mistake at the final corner in Q2 , which ultimately forced him into softs, compromising his race.

So what's with this made up story about Hamilton being the poor driver having to deal with a team making strategical decisions against him, the FIA penalizing him for "every little thing" and the whole world hating him?
Why are you trying to give the impression of Hamilton being a lonely fighter having to fight really hard to survive?

So that it will bring out the haters from the woods, it will take next race and a win for them to go back again!

A person must be really naive to believe that Hamilton needs to deal with difficulties. Actually he is the driver in the most relaxed environment of all. Best car, best team and he can do whatever he wants to. He doesn't even have an opponent this season and can only beat himself by stupid mistakes like today.

[PlatinumZealot]

Sad to see all the Hamilton fan bois criticizing anyone but Hamilton, the race director a f* idiot, Crofty a moron. Go get a life, you guys are sad.

Were not sad, we are very very happy. He's about to beat all the records

Good for him,but too bad for him and the sport he’s never had a real challenge in all these years but that’s not his fault though. But he can act like a normal guy instead of a pussy when something is not going in his way.

Why are the mods not doing anything about this behaviour?! Look at the incessant trolling of this guy! I'm dissapointed no action has been taken.

You need to go on a forum vacation Epo. Looking on your posts you are nothing but trolling for the sake of it.

[Sieper]

Yeah the next points to expire are mid-November from last year's Brazilian Grand Prix. He's racked up 10 points this season already.

I'd say a race ban at some stage is quite likely, even if he makes it past November, as the next points to expire are July next year.

I suspect Mercedes will look to serve it this year, assuming Hamilton leads the WDC by more than 25 points at the final race.

As to today, if Mercedes/Hamilton don't want the stewards interfering, don't give them the chance to interfere. Although, judging from their strategy today...

Great drive from Leclerc, again. Great drive from Perez too.

Sad for Stroll, would've been interesting to see what he could've done with Hamilton so compromised. Also intrigued to learn that being punted into the wall doesn't merit a penalty for the punter.

Carlos...

Nice to see some actual overtaking in Russia, but the Stewards' ruling on having to weave through those bollards took no account of the angles cars might find themselves in, once they'd finished bouncing off the kerbs. If everyone is breaking the rule, perhaps it's a stupid rule. On the plus side, at least they didn't Red Flag the session due to polystyrene on the track (although I assume they're updating the rules even now).

How come you say leclerc did great while at the same time you question (rightfully) why he did not get a penalty for punting stroll in the wall? I thought that a big mistake. Leclerc was fast and made good use of his free tire choice while still starting from P10 as Albon got a penalty for the gearbox change.

[ispano6]

Verstappen always punching above his station. Perez was really good today that W10 car was really a monster last season, still beating 2020 cars and good enough to take 4th 1 point behind Stroll. Stroll unlucky but should have qualified better to avoid the midfield madness.

Yeah Perez went from 11 seconds behind Hamilton after putting during the race to 9 seconds behind Lewis.

Max at the same time was getting further away from Hamilton towards the end with the 2020 Mercedes being such a monster it think it says a lot more about Max/Perez to be able to put that kind of a push to Hamilton.

I think Max/Perez had a far more impressive race then would seem at first sight.

Sergio was almost 18 seconds faster then Ricciardo. And Max was almost 7 seconds closer to Bottas.

Impressive...

Max and Checo were unlucky to start on the dirty side.

[Racer X]

Verstappen always punching above his station. Perez was really good today that W10 car was really a monster last season, still beating 2020 cars and good enough to take 4th 1 point behind Stroll. Stroll unlucky but should have qualified better to avoid the midfield madness.

Yeah Perez went from 11 seconds behind Hamilton after putting during the race to 9 seconds behind Lewis.

Max at the same time was getting further away from Hamilton towards the end with the 2020 Mercedes being such a monster it think it says a lot more about Max/Perez to be able to put that kind of a push to Hamilton.

I think Max/Perez had a far more impressive race then would seem at first sight.

Sergio was almost 18 seconds faster then Ricciardo. And Max was almost 7 seconds closer to Bottas.

Impressive...

It had to do with the fact that after the VSC Lewis backed off and didnot push

Lewis backed off in the final Lap not after the VIRTUAL** safety car. He was cutting time to Max but Perez was still gaining on him. Without the first safety car Max and Perez might have been more impressive.

Bottas might not have won.

Perez would have still been 4th but a bit further away from 5th.**

Max might have won.

Hamilton was no matter what destined to
Get 2nd or 3rd due to his own actions...

[notsofast]

Even with the VSC it wasn't exactly safe for the marshals to be out there to replace the bollards. Maybe next year they should just paint a green lane in that area. Rejoin the track in the green area or else get a 5 second penalty.

[siskue2005]

So what's with this made up story about Hamilton being the poor driver having to deal with a team making strategical decisions against him, the FIA penalizing him for "every little thing" and the whole world hating him?
Why are you trying to give the impression of Hamilton being a lonely fighter having to fight really hard to survive?

So that it will bring out the haters from the woods, it will take next race and a win for them to go back again!

A person must be really naive to believe that Hamilton needs to deal with difficulties. Actually he is the driver in the most relaxed environment of all. Best car, best team and he can do whatever he wants to. He doesn't even have an opponent this season and can only beat himself by stupid mistakes like today.

So? hasnt he struggled from childhood to reach where he is now? and the best team etc etc blah blah is what he deserved with all these years of hard work.... it is like saying "oh look Bill gates he has all the money, he doesn't deserve it"
No one has achieved anything by simply sitting at home and hating, trolling over the internet

And the stupidity today was partly the teams' fault too, gave him authorization to do that

[siskue2005]

How come you say leclerc did great while at the same time you question (rightfully) why he did not get a penalty for punting stroll in the wall? I thought that a big mistake. Leclerc was fast and made good use of his free tire choice while still starting from P10 as Albon got a penalty for the gearbox change.

Leclerc should have got a 5 sec penalty atleast
He clearly took out another driver