2020 Russian Grand Prix - Sochi Autodrom, September 25 - 27

[Sieper]

The difference is that everybody else had to practice from a rubbered in dedicated spot. That spot is not fully representative of your actual grid slot and thus the clutch cannot be totally accurately dialed in. Which was also the reason Hamilton got creative “too much rubber here”, he radioed to the team.

[zibby43]

Every race we seem to be discussing what seem obvious bad decisions or inconsistencies from the stewards, race director or FIA (affecting many drivers and teams) such a shame really.

Masi can't hold a candle to Charlie Whiting.

[notsofast]

"why would you intentionally allow such a thing"

The race director did not intentionally allow Hamilton to do what he did. The race director unintentionally allowed it. The race director screwed up writing the notes. And the stewards didn't realize that the race director screwed up until after the race. The problem is that the stewards didn't read and study the rules. Instead, they did what they thought was right. That's where all the inconsistencies come from.

[siskue2005]

The difference is that everybody else had to practice from a rubbered in dedicated spot. That spot is not fully representative of your actual grid slot and thus the clutch cannot be totally accurately dialed in. Which was also the reason Hamilton got creative “too much rubber here”, he radioed to the team.

The difference is there non specific designated place have a practice start,..it just states after the pit light to the right side and not to impede others, nothing more.

And the cluth bite point is locked, same as part ferme and engine mode. They cannot change it after qualy

[jknights]

Seems like maybe the stewards are becoming too invasive in the race process! Maybe they should provide only guidance, rather than penalties and the race director should be responsible for penalties that can be applied during or post race.

The direction provided by the race director about the way the 'false chicane' at Turn2 should be negotiated caused more problems and dangers than it was meant to solve! IMHO.

[Sieper]

The difference is that everybody else had to practice from a rubbered in dedicated spot. That spot is not fully representative of your actual grid slot and thus the clutch cannot be totally accurately dialed in. Which was also the reason Hamilton got creative “too much rubber here”, he radioed to the team.

The difference is there non specific designated place have a practice start,..it just states after the pit light to the right side and not to impede others, nothing more.

And the cluth bite point is locked, same as part ferme and engine mode. They cannot change it after qualy

It is not just the clutch bite point (but thanks for that info, didn’t know) you also practice yourself with starting. The more realistic (Not rubbered in) the better.

[ENGINE TUNER]

Anyone else think turn 2 was actually dangerous this year? Sainz could have been seriously injured, all because the race director is asking drivers to drive towards a concrete wall.

Of course it is dangerous, Masi is a complete idiot, how difficult is it to understand that everything between the lines should be for racing and everything outside the lines should be for safety, he is still putting launch ramps just off the racing surface.

[maxxer]

Anyone else think turn 2 was actually dangerous this year? Sainz could have been seriously injured, all because the race director is asking drivers to drive towards a concrete wall.

Of course it is dangerous, Masi is a complete idiot, how difficult is it to understand that everything between the lines should be for racing and everything outside the lines should be for safety, he is still putting launch ramps just off the racing surface.

[maxxer]

Anyone else think turn 2 was actually dangerous this year? Sainz could have been seriously injured, all because the race director is asking drivers to drive towards a concrete wall.

Of course it is dangerous, Masi is a complete idiot, how difficult is it to understand that everything between the lines should be for racing and everything outside the lines should be for safety, he is still putting launch ramps just off the racing surface.

Seems the approach verstappen took before even touching a kerb was the only way to safely get through this Masi obstruction , otherwise it was a complete failure as Grosjean proved by trying to drive through them after he went sliding on the Masi skateramp

[Sieper]

If you abort the corner early the angle of approach is shallow, if you abort later the angle is much more difficult and younhave to slow down much more to have a chance to make it. Sainz was a bit too greedy in trying to keep speed. He should have cut his losses.

Having said that, the concrete wall there needs to be removed. Or a different way to rejoin needs to be thought up as this is too dangerous.

I have no doubt this will be changed next year.

[basti313]

I am surprised by the special notes...there may be a reason for 19.1 specific to this track, but why 19.2??? My impression was and is, that stopping in the fast lane or on the track is always disallowed. What is the reason here for these rules?

I am not specifically questioning them at the end, due to the long split track, you exit with over 200km/h...I think stopping there is rather out of question.

[ENGINE TUNER]

Of course it is dangerous, Masi is a complete idiot, how difficult is it to understand that everything between the lines should be for racing and everything outside the lines should be for safety, he is still putting launch ramps just off the racing surface.

Seems the approach verstappen took before even touching a kerb was the only way to safely get through this Masi obstruction , otherwise it was a complete failure as Grosjean proved by trying to drive through them after he went sliding on the Masi skateramp

Even the route and speed that VER took wasn't safe, could have easily been considered an unsafe reentry even though VER did so according to the rules/regs. VER could have easily hit RIC and SAI could have easily caused a huge pileup bouncing back on track into an acceleration zone. Complete clusterfook. The launch ramps need to go, and the lines policed by penalty, not by obstacles on the track. Masi is so clueless it's hard to understand how he even got his position b4 Charlie passed.

[ambientnoiz]

Sorry if I missed it, could leclerc get a postrace penalty for causing a collision?

[foxmulder_ms]

Stewards are very happy to give Hamilton result changing penalties but when it is Ferrari or RedBull they require tectonic plates to move. peah..

[Sevach]

hmm
https://streamable.com/11p6ld
via /u/Ricci2014_

Yeah nearly identical i don't know why it wasn't brought to anybodies attention.