[ 2020 ] Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

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If Norris can improve in S2, where he is a couple tenths behind the rest of the midfield (including Carlos), he could get be in the fight for P4.

Good laps by both cars in Q2... S1 is very competitive, matching the Mercedes


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Not sure what’s going on....I’m confused. Not enough time to refuel and stick a second set on

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Says in team stream that they did that run on their final new soft. So that’s it boys. Disappointing end to quali

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I really don’t get how McLaren come up with their tyre usage in qualifying.
Q: (Stefano Mancini – La Stampa) Kimi, will you help Vettel to win his championship this year?
Kimi Raikkonen: I can only drive one car, obviously. 
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WTH was up with that qualifying strategy?? Still 7/8 not the end of the world

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Wtf are we doing again?? Brainless strategy

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The track was getting slower (as proven by everyone’s lap times)... If the track is getting slower (whether because of temperature, wind, etc) it was the right call to go on the new set of Softs from the get go.

With the times set early in Q3, there was no benefit to go out again in a used set of Softs and a track that was dropping away.


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Ground Effect wrote:I really don’t get how McLaren come up with their tyre usage in qualifying.
I was surprised more by the amount of laps that both Lando and Carlos did on the new set in Q3, if I’m not wrong they did 4-5 laps on those tires (which also means that there was a lot of fuel on the cars to begin with).


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They used 2 sets of softs in in Q1 and Q2. You only get 4 sets of softs. Then an xtra if you make it into Q3.


What worries me is they didn't even bother to try any laps on Medium. So wonder how slow they are on those. it was taking 3 laps to warm up the softs.

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We've actually been much more competitive on Mediums than Softs all weekend. I wouldn't mind if they saved new Mediums for the race. P4/5 still in play

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Will be a two stop race tomorrow, the hard is basically useless here. Soft medium soft will be the preferred strategy tomorrow. Not a bad idea to save a set that they used for their aborted second run in Q2. Will not be a straight forward race tomorrow with low grip surface on worn tyres towards the end of stints. Safety car is a real possibility.
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Seems the MCL35 has more issues with getting enough heat into the tires.
Outlap. Fast (no deployment) lap. Quali lap (fast) Slow lap then a final Fastest Quali lap.

Whereas the others seem to be able to do an outlap, fast lap and then quali lap.

Anyway, at least we are well inside the top10 and GAS/Renault behind. Let’s be grateful that we have reversed the downward trend and gains are made relative to the competition.

S1 as quick if not quickest so traction of low speed corners is definitely not an issue. High speed corners it’s very impressive too on a higher downforce track. Pointing to very efficient aero for the drag incurred.
It’s low/medium speed long radius corners where the Merc (especially) and RB have the legs on us. Slowly plugging away at the weaknesses.
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Macklaren wrote:We've actually been much more competitive on Mediums than Softs all weekend. I wouldn't mind if they saved new Mediums for the race. P4/5 still in play
Exactly... The wind change meant that they weren’t going to improve so gambling on wearing out a new set of Mediums for potentially not improving wasn’t worth the risk it seems (I’m sure the team has all the data they need in regards to this).

The important thing is that we are ahead of both Renault’s and ahead of one of the RP’s to start the race... Now is a matter of having a bit of luck tomorrow after a few weekends where it hasn’t gone their way.


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101FlyingDutchman wrote:Seems the MCL35 has more issues with getting enough heat into the tires.
Outlap. Fast (no deployment) lap. Quali lap (fast) Slow lap then a final Fastest Quali lap.

Whereas the others seem to be able to do an outlap, fast lap and then quali lap.

Anyway, at least we are well inside the top10 and GAS/Renault behind. Let’s be grateful that we have reversed the downward trend and gains are made relative to the competition.

S1 as quick if not quickest so traction of low speed corners is definitely not an issue. High speed corners it’s very impressive too on a higher downforce track. Pointing to very efficient aero for the drag incurred.
It’s low/medium speed long radius corners where the Merc (especially) and RB have the legs on us. Slowly plugging away at the weaknesses.
We also need to consider that the difference to Leclerc and Perez is less than one hundred of a second, so the pace of the car wasn’t that bad compared to our main rivals.


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SmallSoldier wrote:
24 Oct 2020, 16:54
101FlyingDutchman wrote:Seems the MCL35 has more issues with getting enough heat into the tires.
Outlap. Fast (no deployment) lap. Quali lap (fast) Slow lap then a final Fastest Quali lap.

Whereas the others seem to be able to do an outlap, fast lap and then quali lap.

Anyway, at least we are well inside the top10 and GAS/Renault behind. Let’s be grateful that we have reversed the downward trend and gains are made relative to the competition.

S1 as quick if not quickest so traction of low speed corners is definitely not an issue. High speed corners it’s very impressive too on a higher downforce track. Pointing to very efficient aero for the drag incurred.
It’s low/medium speed long radius corners where the Merc (especially) and RB have the legs on us. Slowly plugging away at the weaknesses.
We also need to consider that the difference to Leclerc and Perez is less than one hundred of a second, so the pace of the car wasn’t that bad compared to our main rivals.


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I expect Leclerc will fade away quite quickly.
If i would get the money to start my own F1 team, i would revive Arrows