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I note in that article that it says RB spent two tokens on the gearbox, which is new information to me. I perhaps expected them to spend some on a more Mercedes like rear suspension system, but it seems not.Wouter wrote: ↑09 Feb 2021, 12:28Japanese article about the Red Bull Honda RB16B.
I have no idea if there is something new in this Japanese article, because the translation isn't always correct.
Maybe someone knows if there is anything new here?
GT English: https://translate.google.com/translate? ... 60628.html
Japanese article: https://f1-gate.com/redbull/f1_60628.html
Yes but in terms of token costs too? I should read the regulations on this point. Are they around?godlameroso wrote: ↑09 Feb 2021, 15:39Changing the transmission is changing the suspension as it is mounted to the transmission.
It could mean changing the suspension but not necessarily, they could put the suspension mount point back exactly in the same possition. All depends on why they are changing the gearbox.godlameroso wrote: ↑09 Feb 2021, 15:39Changing the transmission is changing the suspension as it is mounted to the transmission.
To handle the powerdiffuser wrote: ↑09 Feb 2021, 16:33It could mean changing the suspension but not necessarily, they could put the suspension mount point back exactly in the same possition. All depends on why they are changing the gearbox.godlameroso wrote: ↑09 Feb 2021, 15:39Changing the transmission is changing the suspension as it is mounted to the transmission.
bigblue wrote: ↑09 Feb 2021, 19:22To handle the powerdiffuser wrote: ↑09 Feb 2021, 16:33It could mean changing the suspension but not necessarily, they could put the suspension mount point back exactly in the same possition. All depends on why they are changing the gearbox.godlameroso wrote: ↑09 Feb 2021, 15:39Changing the transmission is changing the suspension as it is mounted to the transmission.
https://the-race.com/formula-1/whats-at ... or-issues/Honda is leaving F1 at the end of this year, after what will be only its third season partnered with Red Bull and fourth with sister team AlphaTauri.
It was immediately open to a deal to let Red Bull take over its engines for 2022 and beyond, but Red Bull was adamant it would not be able fund, let alone carry out, any engine development.
Under the existing rules, Mercedes, Renault and Ferrari would have had an extra opportunity during 2022 to gain performance vs the 2021 Honda engine before development was made to stop for three seasons starting in 2023.
But a motion to bring the engine freeze forward to the start of the 2022 season is expected to finally be tabled today after a delay of several weeks.
The compromise would mean manufacturers have the opportunity to update their engines for the new, increased-percentage synthetic fuels for 2022, while Red Bull can also employ Honda to develop the heavily-revised 2021 engine further.
But a sticking point could be the desire from some parties, including Ferrari and Red Bull, to incorporate a system that artificially boosts the performance of any manufacturer that begins 2022 with a major engine deficit.
Mercedes and Renault were vehemently opposed to the idea, labelling it a Balance of Performance-style system, while Mercedes boss Toto Wolff said it would be the beginning of the end for F1.
In favour:Wouter wrote: ↑11 Feb 2021, 11:39
Red Bull’s engine freeze finally faces a vote.
https://the-race.com/formula-1/whats-at ... or-issues/
Balance of performance is still being discussed. The goal would be to be within 2% of the power level of the class of the field and FIA technical Technical Director Gilles Simon thinks that they won't need to actively adjust the performance of the PUs as he is optimistic of this happening by the manufacturers' development until 2022 anyway. There still is a whole year of development available until the start of 2022 to achieve that.JordanMugen wrote: ↑11 Feb 2021, 15:32In favour:Wouter wrote: ↑11 Feb 2021, 11:39
Red Bull’s engine freeze finally faces a vote.
https://the-race.com/formula-1/whats-at ... or-issues/
Liberty Media 10 votes
FIA 10 votes
Honda 1 vote
Red Bull Racing 1 vote
Scuderia AlphaTauri 1 vote
Ferrari 1 vote
Scuderia Ferrari 1 vote
HAAS F1 Team 1 vote
Alfa Romeo Racing 1 vote
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Total 27 votes
Opposed:
Mercedes HPP 1 vote
Mercedes GP 1 vote
Aston Martin Racing 1 vote
Williams Racing 1 vote
McLaren Racing 1 vote
Renault 1 vote
Alpine F1 Team 1 vote
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Total 7 votes
In favour wins. That makes the early freeze with balance-of-performance mechanism confirmed by 27 votes against 7 votes, does it not?
20 PS variance should be a sufficiently tight margin.LM10 wrote: ↑11 Feb 2021, 16:43Balance of performance is still being discussed. The goal would be to be within 2% of the power level of the class of the field and FIA technical Technical Director Gilles Simon thinks that they won't need to actively adjust the performance of the PUs as he is optimistic of this happening by the manufacturers' development until 2022 anyway. There still is a whole year of development available until the start of 2022 to achieve that.
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-t ... eeze-2022/Following a meeting on Thursday of the F1 Commission, made up of teams, the FIA and the F1 organisation, it is understood that unanimous approval was given to an engine freeze to come into play from the start of next year.
