Mercedes Power Unit Hardware & Software

All that has to do with the power train, gearbox, clutch, fuels and lubricants, etc. Generally the mechanical side of Formula One.
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https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/15501 ... eparations

Like past years where they were having issues with their engine.

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These teams never give any meaty information. Sigh.

It's like the videos are made for shareholders or filthy casuals.
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Re: dyno use restrictions, can't the customer teams use dyno time or is it only the manufacturer that is allowed a dyno? Surely if the customers can run PUs on dynos, problems can be dealt with just as easily as before.
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Just_a_fan wrote:
Mon Feb 15, 2021 5:38 pm
Re: dyno use restrictions, can't the customer teams use dyno time or is it only the manufacturer that is allowed a dyno? Surely if the customers can run PUs on dynos, problems can be dealt with just as easily as before.
I doubt customers dyno the engines. They can't even build/start the car without engineers from the supplier.

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Zynerji wrote:
Mon Feb 15, 2021 7:02 pm
Just_a_fan wrote:
Mon Feb 15, 2021 5:38 pm
Re: dyno use restrictions, can't the customer teams use dyno time or is it only the manufacturer that is allowed a dyno? Surely if the customers can run PUs on dynos, problems can be dealt with just as easily as before.
I doubt customers dyno the engines. They can't even build/start the car without engineers from the supplier.
I'm sure you're correct in that.

It was more an idea for how the rules might be circumvented to give more dyno hours. Install a dyno, second some engineers to the customer team, do some dyno stuff. I have no idea if it is practical or legal, that was why I was posing the idea.
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Not Engine Dyno specifically but apparently McLaren shipped their Car to AVL for Dyno testing (Full Chassis Dyno?). Better than nothing for Merc i guess.
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Just_a_fan wrote:
Mon Feb 15, 2021 7:08 pm
Zynerji wrote:
Mon Feb 15, 2021 7:02 pm
Just_a_fan wrote:
Mon Feb 15, 2021 5:38 pm
Re: dyno use restrictions, can't the customer teams use dyno time or is it only the manufacturer that is allowed a dyno? Surely if the customers can run PUs on dynos, problems can be dealt with just as easily as before.
I doubt customers dyno the engines. They can't even build/start the car without engineers from the supplier.
I'm sure you're correct in that.

It was more an idea for how the rules might be circumvented to give more dyno hours. Install a dyno, second some engineers to the customer team, do some dyno stuff. I have no idea if it is practical or legal, that was why I was posing the idea.
Maybe. It depends on if the wording restricts "teams" or "suppliers".

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Thunder wrote:
Mon Feb 15, 2021 7:30 pm
Not Engine Dyno specifically but apparently McLaren shipped their Car to AVL for Dyno testing (Full Chassis Dyno?). Better than nothing for Merc i guess.
Yes, they have been testing in Graz for the last couple weeks.

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300 km for PU Mercedes before the tests

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I suppose they must have Mercedes engineers in attendance for these tests. Becuase hey, they are only ones with the computers to start the things.
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Be it McLaren, Williams or Aston Martin only Mercedes HPP engineers manage the power unit.

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Skippon wrote:
Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:06 pm
Be it McLaren, Williams or Aston Martin only Mercedes HPP engineers manage the power unit.
How does that work under the cost cap then? are they considered Merc employees or employees of the team?
Must be an awkward one to sort out
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''How does it work... Must be an awkward one'' It has been part of the customer engine supply from well before the advent of the present power unit. I remember an engine supplier personal assigned to one team ordered not to fire-up a particular customer team engine/s because of unpaid instalments to the engine supplier before practice started at Silverstone. Also remember mercedes engine raced by mclaren having to be returned to supplier after each race and being delivered back at each race before practice.

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HPP engineers working at McL now appear to be wearing customer team wear.
5th guy left to right is Lewis's ex PU engineer who was replaced by Magda. I think he's now the HPP engineer in charge of McL PUs.

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Mudflap wrote:
Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:27 pm
HPP engineers working at McL now appear to be wearing customer team wear.
5th guy left to right is Lewis's ex PU engineer who was replaced by Magda. I think he's now the HPP engineer in charge of McL PUs.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EuXsF0qXUAM ... name=large
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