Yeah man agree with you. The garbage people have been spewing about Hamilton for ages is just diabolical. Now they were basically stuffed today the same crowd is resorting to 'race pace' arguments.El Scorchio wrote: ↑28 Mar 2021, 19:38Sorry, but no. If the Mercedes is on pole by 0.4 seconds then you’ll be among the first people to say how much of a better car it is than any other. Now the situation is reversed and it’s ‘very very close’ between the cars. Come on.lh13 wrote: ↑28 Mar 2021, 19:06You are exaggerating. Today's race showed cars are close indeed.El Scorchio wrote: ↑28 Mar 2021, 19:00
The cars aren’t very, very close mate. The Red Bull is clearly faster. Nice try (again) though.
Is it a tough decision? This year, currently, both are in with a good chance of the title(s). Next year, they might fluff it anyway and then be behind the front end of the grid. So it's a good chance this year or a possible chance next.
I thought exactly the same.El Scorchio wrote: ↑28 Mar 2021, 22:34Here’s one. (and apologies if it’s been discussed and I missed it.) Been thinking about it since earlier and I genuinely don’t know the answer.
If Perez pulled over on the formation lap and then went into the pits at the end of the same lap, while all the other cars went round an additional formation lap which officially counted as lap one of the race- in effect lapping him, shouldn’t Perez have started one lap down on everyone else rather than the same lap? I really don’t know the rules surrounding it and whether there’s an allowance but I’m sure Perez only did 56 laps while everyone else did 57?
I thought it was rather messy (as usual). The white line should be the edge of the track. Then it is clear. But now it sometimes the line is used, sometimes the edge of the curbstone, and in this case it seemed to be an arbitrary distance from the curbstones.zibby43 wrote: ↑28 Mar 2021, 22:08
This is correct. Version 2 of the Race Director’s notes specifically states that T4 was not going to be monitored during the race.
After the radio call, it did start to get monitored (which is crazy), and both teams complied henceforth.
But the overtake had nothing to do with T4’s monitoring status. Completely separate issue. That pass would’ve been disallowed at every corner.
Credit to Max for going for it at least, and being a good sport about it afterward when it was correctly decided.
The race hadn't started, so no he isn't a lap down. They count the lap really for the sole reason that the cars could no longer do the race distance otherwise, due to being fueled for a specific distance.El Scorchio wrote: ↑28 Mar 2021, 22:34Here’s one. (and apologies if it’s been discussed and I missed it.) Been thinking about it since earlier and I genuinely don’t know the answer.
If Perez pulled over on the formation lap and then went into the pits at the end of the same lap, while all the other cars went round an additional formation lap which officially counted as lap one of the race- in effect lapping him, shouldn’t Perez have started one lap down on everyone else rather than the same lap? I really don’t know the rules surrounding it and whether there’s an allowance but I’m sure Perez only did 56 laps while everyone else did 57?
Thanks! Makes sense. You could argue he then has the advantage of ever so slightly less worn tyres and the ability to use a little more fuel over the race, but of course that’s offset by fractionally more fuel weight he has to carry, along with of course the huge disadvantage of starting from the pit Lane!Mchamilton wrote: ↑28 Mar 2021, 23:18The race hadn't started, so no he isn't a lap down. They count the lap really for the sole reason that the cars could no longer do the race distance otherwise, due to being fueled for a specific distance.El Scorchio wrote: ↑28 Mar 2021, 22:34Here’s one. (and apologies if it’s been discussed and I missed it.) Been thinking about it since earlier and I genuinely don’t know the answer.
If Perez pulled over on the formation lap and then went into the pits at the end of the same lap, while all the other cars went round an additional formation lap which officially counted as lap one of the race- in effect lapping him, shouldn’t Perez have started one lap down on everyone else rather than the same lap? I really don’t know the rules surrounding it and whether there’s an allowance but I’m sure Perez only did 56 laps while everyone else did 57?
All good points!Just_a_fan wrote: ↑28 Mar 2021, 22:58Is it a tough decision? This year, currently, both are in with a good chance of the title(s). Next year, they might fluff it anyway and then be behind the front end of the grid. So it's a good chance this year or a possible chance next.
Or: Jam today, jam tomorrow.
I think Mercedes will want to get the title this year because, if for no other reason, it would mean they had all of the titles for this particular era. That is unheard of in the history of F1, isn't it? So they may be prepared to risk next year if it gets them this year in the bag.
Norris just after Leclerc said that the stewards were clear that you will get a penalty only if you gain an advantage while passing someone in turn 4...like Verstappen did when passing Hamilton! Not if you just go beyond the kerbs without passing someone!siskue2005 wrote: ↑28 Mar 2021, 23:32
Leclerc confirms drivers were told there would be no penalty for going off the circuit at turn 4
interesting
4 years ago, Max was still a teenager. That's a mad thought, isn't it? And teenagers aren't always the most reliable people. But now Max has grown up and is no longer a teenager. He has matured and that showed today. Sure, his little thing about just taking the 5 second penalty instead of handing back the place was a bit silly but it was adrenaline talking. After the race, he was very calm and considered.Edax wrote: ↑28 Mar 2021, 23:15
Concur with the last comment, 4 years ago Ves would have either:
A) driven Ham front wing off when entering the corner, and damaged his own floor.
B) ignored the teams request to give the place back.
C) made a big stink on the podium.
Or more likely a combination of these three.
The fact that he didn’t, shows how far he has come. And frankly is more pleasant to watch.
Anyway. It was a good race, I enjoyed it. The drivers enjoyed it. What more can you ask for.