2021 Pecking order prediction

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dren wrote:
Mon Apr 05, 2021 12:24 pm
PlatinumZealot wrote:
Sat Apr 03, 2021 8:46 pm
A few races from now, Max won't be so friendly to congratulate Lewis anymore.
He'll certainly be friendly because he'll be congratulating Lewis on his 2nd and 3rd place finishes.
Touché! :D

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A hint from Lando Norris that the Mercedes engines were running conservatively:

https://www.racefans.net/2021/04/05/nor ... ower-unit/

The Honda is also running a bit conservatively too. But it seems the Mercedes even more so.
.. OG.. OG.. OG.. OG..
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PlatinumZealot wrote:
Mon Apr 05, 2021 1:52 pm
A hint from Lando Norris that the Mercedes engines were running conservatively:

https://www.racefans.net/2021/04/05/nor ... ower-unit/

The Honda is also running a bit conservatively too. But it seems the Mercedes even more so.
All engines were running conservatively. The engines have to last eight races this season.

Where do you read that: "The Honda is also running a bit conservatively too. But it seems the Mercedes even more so."
I don't see that anywhere in the article.

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Wouter wrote:
Mon Apr 05, 2021 2:25 pm
PlatinumZealot wrote:
Mon Apr 05, 2021 1:52 pm
A hint from Lando Norris that the Mercedes engines were running conservatively:

https://www.racefans.net/2021/04/05/nor ... ower-unit/

The Honda is also running a bit conservatively too. But it seems the Mercedes even more so.
All engines were running conservatively. The engines have to last eight races this season.

Where do you read that: "The Honda is also running a bit conservatively too. But it seems the Mercedes even more so."
I don't see that anywhere in the article.
For the Honda... Tanabe hinted that they may be running too conservatively.. They will assess the engine wear and decide if they can run more power. Keep in mind Max had to turn his engine down in the race because of differential Issue but the other Honda cars did not - so Tanabe is not refering to that, but the overall strategy for all honda Power units.

For the Mercedes. Norris is saying the engines have a mapping to protect something. Notice he differentiated between ICE and ERS. This ties in with other comments from Mercedes head figures from pre-testing up to post race.

Said Norris:
"things we clearly need to work on, both from engine but also from the [power unit] side of things."
.. OG.. OG.. OG.. OG..
Online Stress Therapy. #77 is mediocre. W12 is the fastest car. Repeat x 1,000

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PlatinumZealot wrote:
Mon Apr 05, 2021 3:29 pm
Wouter wrote:
Mon Apr 05, 2021 2:25 pm
PlatinumZealot wrote:
Mon Apr 05, 2021 1:52 pm
A hint from Lando Norris that the Mercedes engines were running conservatively:

https://www.racefans.net/2021/04/05/nor ... ower-unit/

The Honda is also running a bit conservatively too. But it seems the Mercedes even more so.
All engines were running conservatively. The engines have to last eight races this season.

Where do you read that: "The Honda is also running a bit conservatively too. But it seems the Mercedes even more so."
I don't see that anywhere in the article.
For the Honda... Tanabe hinted that they may be running too conservatively.. They will assess the engine wear and decide if they can run more power. Keep in mind Max had to turn his engine down in the race because of differential Issue but the other Honda cars did not - so Tanabe is not refering to that, but the overall strategy for all honda Power units.

For the Mercedes. Norris is saying the engines have a mapping to protect something. Notice he differentiated between ICE and ERS. This ties in with other comments from Mercedes head figures from pre-testing up to post race.

Said Norris:
"things we clearly need to work on, both from engine but also from the [power unit] side of things."
this is where they make things weird for viewers. throughout the 3 days of testing, they ran the engines (pu), in various modes and in much hotter temperatures (testing was during the day) than what they saw on race night. they should have way more data to assess the wear on the pu components than one race of 50 laps (minus safety car laps). moreover, they run their power units on dynos for thousands of hours. these kind of statements from teams make them look extremely inefficient that they find out their problems in races, instead of doing it on their sophisticated test bench/rigs for which they spent hundreds of millions of dollars.