2021 Rules hit Mercedes hard. Not a coincidence.

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El Scorchio
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JordanMugen wrote:
16 Apr 2021, 15:25
The plot thickens again...

Aston Martin demands a mid-season adjustment to the bodywork regulations (at the Imola GP), to compensate their "unfair" disadvantage. First, Aston Martin would like a discussion and possible regulation amendments to be evaluated.

Most curious!
It does sound a bit like the sourest of grapes.

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They'll probably stick with this as much as with the appeal against their penalty last year .......

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I bet 75% of their issue is the tires rather than the floor.
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This smells like internal politics at AMR. Did anyone watch "Drive to Survive" season 3? Otmar is under no illusions that his job is secure, so quite naturally he is going all out to prove to Lawrence that he can make things right. After all of that PR only to be languishing in the midfield not to mention their start signing is being outclassed by Lance who is basically driving for free.

Yerp, the rules did hurt them, but this extra push by Otmar in a "dead season" is a bit overdoing it!
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It is especially rich given his stance last year that everybody has the same rules and they just did a better job. Frankly they should all just kick him to the dirt and tell him he should've done a better job. Live by the sword die by the sword.

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cooken wrote:
17 Apr 2021, 14:55
It is especially rich given his stance last year that everybody has the same rules and they just did a better job. Frankly they should all just kick him to the dirt and tell him he should've done a better job. Live by the sword die by the sword.
He’s just saying what he’s got to say though isn’t he. All team principals are the same. It’s just politicking.

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Now that Mercedes is faster than RB
We can close this topic :D

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The car is still not back to full dominance. Until the relative lap-time losses compared to last year are similar to rivals then there is still some good investigation to do.
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They did get pole but realistically weren't the fastest in the dry in quali since at least one RBR driver could or maybe even should have gotten pole and it was an RBR 2-3 with the second Merc driver struggling with rear instability in P8.

Not only does one driver being faster in mixed and tricky conditions not mean that they have the faster car, but this was always about relative losses to the previous year - in Imola they lost ~0.8s to last year where they got pole by ~0.6s, now they were very close in pace on one lap against a team that just lost ~0.2s to last year. Still a massive difference.

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PlatinumZealot wrote:
19 Apr 2021, 02:29
The car is still not back to full dominance. Until the relative lap-time losses compared to last year are similar to rivals then there is still some good investigation to do.
But nobody wants Mercedes to dominate...

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JordanMugen wrote:
28 Apr 2021, 23:20
PlatinumZealot wrote:
19 Apr 2021, 02:29
The car is still not back to full dominance. Until the relative lap-time losses compared to last year are similar to rivals then there is still some good investigation to do.
But nobody wants Mercedes to dominate...
Well, some people might do. Admittedly that's likely to be a minority of F1 fans.
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cooken wrote:
17 Apr 2021, 14:55
It is especially rich given his stance last year that everybody has the same rules and they just did a better job. Frankly they should all just kick him to the dirt and tell him he should've done a better job. Live by the sword die by the sword.
Yeah, not like others have said that in the past, is it Christian? :wink:
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Well, we have had several years of rules hitting RBR the hardest, so if this is not a coincedence then certainly those weren’t as well. That is the consequence of accepting this hypothesis.

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Sieper wrote:
28 Apr 2021, 23:37
Well, we have had several years of rules hitting RBR the hardest, so if this is not a coincedence then certainly those weren’t as well. That is the consequence of accepting this hypothesis.
How would F1 have panned out with frozen V8 engines with blown diffusers from 2014 to present? :?: :)

Perhaps with Mercedes being considered the finest team on the grid, Mercedes would have also developed the finest exhaust blown diffuser mapping? :?: :D

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Jambier wrote:
18 Apr 2021, 20:05
Now that Mercedes is faster than RB
We can close this topic :D
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