Really… I heard they have spy pics which clearly show Lewis’ wheels were fitted with Roman chariot style spikes on the hubsLaplacesDemon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 28, 2021 5:08 pmI don't see on what grounds they can push for a harsher penalty. FIA have declared Hamilton predominantly at fault and punished him accordingly. Realistically there is no way they can spin it to make him wholly at fault.
lol, I'd love to see what he supposedly has that the stewards didn't already have access to.
Obviously he didn’t try to take Max out, but suppose they say he’s 100% guilty and accidentally to put Max
They don’t give racing bans for it.
Sounds like no evidence they have is new. Marko doesn’t sound confident in his chances (and he shouldn’t). He’s publicly admitting that they’re just doing this to put on a public spectacle of support for Max.ringo wrote: ↑Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:19 pmWe are now hearing that the engine is fine and redbull wont have any parts penalties.
Goes to show how overblown all of this is.
Their damage doesnt cost 1.8 million anymore.
Redbull is a nasty little team.
Marko is claiming he has video evidence and Hamilton should get a race ban or drive through penalty in the next race.
But is that what fans want to see?
Yeh, but it could still have been 500g, but they were luckyringo wrote: ↑Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:19 pmWe are now hearing that the engine is fine and redbull wont have any parts penalties.
Goes to show how overblown all of this is.
Their damage doesnt cost 1.8 million anymore.
Redbull is a nasty little team.
Marko is claiming he has video evidence and Hamilton should get a race ban or drive through penalty in the next race.
But is that what fans want to see?
Good question:NathanOlder wrote: ↑Wed Jul 28, 2021 11:18 pmwhat happens if a team over spends? Say a team has spent every last penny and with 1 race to go, need a new chassis due to a crash or a new PU. Whats the penalty?
That's the way I read it as well. I just don't envision Redbull ordering Max to let Checo past in Austria like Mercedes ordered hamilton to do in Austria because of his damaged car. They would rather the Mclaren beat both Redbulls instead of the championship leader losing points to his teammate.Just_a_fan wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 2:10 pmMercedes do it their way because it's team result first, driver result second. Red Bull appears to take the opposite approach and put driver result first, hence why they have no compunction with favouring one driver with upgrades before the other driver.aMessageToCharlie wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 1:40 pmIf it gave the team any kind of edge, I would fully expect a team like Mercedes to jump on it and take the gains. They are working to extract any kind of performance gains they can get, so if it was beneficial to follow that approach, they'd do it.NathanOlder wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 12:31 pmYou say every team would do it, well they are not currently doing it, so the reason then I ask is, why are RedBull doing it ? Spening more money on 1 car maybe ?
I think Mercedes bring their updates in pairs, so both drivers have it. I guess if a team really wanted to back 1 driver they would only produce 1 of every upgrade, then spend a little more on the development and make the 1 car faster, when the car gets upgrades to upgraded parts, they then drop on to the number 2 car.
Mercedes certainly havent done this.
IMO Mercedes' approach would be the preferred one as you want both of your cars to be as competitive as possible.
So I would think that RBR's approach this year might more likely be down to them not being able to produce the needed quantity of parts, rather than a strategic move. Especially in a year with relatively few updates planned, the "upgrades to upgraded parts" approach seems unpractical.
Given one or other title, I get the feeling that Red Bull would be happy to win the driver title and lose the constructor title, Mercedes would be happy the other way.