2021 Hungarian Grand Prix - Hungaroring, July 30 - Aug 01

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politburo wrote:
31 Jul 2021, 16:22
It's part of the game, in Silverstone everyone cheers the British drivers, also, they cheered the crash let's not forget. Other countries cheer other drivers and boo others as well. Beat them all with the same stick please.
I thought it was disproven that they actually cheered the crash itself, and it was more the usual "something happened" fan noise. Earlier when Sainz crashed there was noise like cheering but I doubt anyone actually was.

littlebigcat
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politburo wrote:
31 Jul 2021, 16:27
Why would Horner go to the stewards for that?. What rule did Hamilton break as it pertains to driving standards?. Sounds like pure speculation abound.
Its all part of the 4D chess to brand Hamilton as a reckless and amateurish driver.

:wtf:

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politburo wrote:
31 Jul 2021, 16:27
dans79 wrote:
31 Jul 2021, 16:24
Just_a_fan wrote:
31 Jul 2021, 16:22


But he can't since the British GP - he needs an invite first... :lol:
Yep, and it's all because he complained so loudly and publicly about Toto going to see the stewards.
Why would Horner go to the stewards for that?. What rule did Hamilton break as it pertains to driving standards?. Sounds like pure speculation abound.

He could complain that his drivers were impeded. However given how the rest of the cars were positioned on track I don't think the stewards would agree.
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"It's interesting tactics, to keep pole position, just don't let anyone do the lap"

Lewis Hamilton - Monza 2019 :roll:

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politburo wrote:
31 Jul 2021, 16:27
dans79 wrote:
31 Jul 2021, 16:24
Just_a_fan wrote:
31 Jul 2021, 16:22


But he can't since the British GP - he needs an invite first... :lol:
Yep, and it's all because he complained so loudly and publicly about Toto going to see the stewards.
Why would Horner go to the stewards for that?. What rule did Hamilton break as it pertains to driving standards?. Sounds like pure speculation abound.
That, and to be fair, RB just didnt have the pace this weekend (although i am still expecting a few people to come and argue that they had a faster car, as happens every week.. ;p). Maybe Max could have taken Bottas, but Lewis was out of reach here.

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That’s the risk of going out at the very last moment. Ocon was only a couple of seconds in front of Bottas.

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So the run down to the first corner is going to be key. Max can get by on the softer tyre if he aces his start.

The differing strategy at the front hopefully makes tomorrow interesting. Max will need to get ahead of the Mercs to maximise his softer tyres. If he gets stuck behind the Mercs then that's play in to his hands a bit. Is this a strong undercut track? If so, then Perez can help Max by possibly forcing Bottas to pit earlier. It's going to be an interesting bit of chess and much will depend on the turn 1 and 2 outcome.
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lh13 wrote:
31 Jul 2021, 16:27
Just_a_fan wrote:
31 Jul 2021, 16:27
Horner saying he has no problem with the slow outlap. Hamilton had track position and had the right to drive his own pace. Which is surprising to hear and hopefully will kill this issue dead from now on.
In your face, I would say.
What?
If you are more fortunate than others, build a larger table not a taller fence.

politburo
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Just_a_fan wrote:
31 Jul 2021, 16:27
Horner saying he has no problem with the slow outlap. Hamilton had track position and had the right to drive his own pace. Which is surprising to hear and hopefully will kill this issue dead from now on.
It's not a driving standard issue. It's just boring we didn't get to see the drivers put competitive laps in on their final run with all this stopping before the last corner. Even worse off for Verstappen who could've challenged for pole. Which certainly affects tomorrow's race - they're on the terrible soft tyre, which in the race runs for Ferrari was over 5 tenths slower than the Medium tyre with Vettel as per www.f1bythenumbers.com. It's basically going to be Austria 2.0, one driver (Hamilton this time) 10+ seconds ahead lapping on his own, and the 2nd, 3rd and 4th separated by 2 or 3 seconds each due to the delta in tyres. But hats off to Mercedes not being baited into qualifying on softs in Q2.
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What is the fuzz about? Verstappen did his lap and was 4 tenths slower?

If anyone has a problem with Perez not making it over the line in time, Red Bull has all the possibilty in the world to release him from the pits earlier. End of story. This whole thing is getting completely ridiculous. Get on with it ffs.

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politburo wrote:
31 Jul 2021, 16:33
It's not a driving standard issue. It's just boring we didn't get to see the drivers put competitive laps in on their final run with all this stopping before the last corner. Even worse off for Verstappen who could've challenged for pole. Which certainly affects tomorrow's race - they're on the terrible soft tyre, which in the race runs for Ferrari was over 5 tenths slower than the Medium tyre with Vettel as per www.f1bythenumbers.com. It's basically going to be Austria 2.0, one driver (Hamilton this time) 10+ seconds ahead lapping on his own, and the 2nd, 3rd and 4th separated by 2 or 3 seconds each due to the delta in tyres. But hats off to Mercedes not being baited into qualifying on softs in Q2.
They were out there on softs I think, just in case, but did not complete the laps.

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politburo wrote:
31 Jul 2021, 16:33
But hats off to Mercedes not being baited into qualifying on softs in Q2.
They did send them out on softs just in case, I think. Luckily for Mercedes they had just enough pace on the mediums. But it was close.
If you are more fortunate than others, build a larger table not a taller fence.

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To bad for Sainz so tricky these cars when they go they go

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Someone, looooong time ago, teach the rest of the field how you can win Hungaroring by doing an extra pit stop.
So, starting with soft, could mean an attempt to pass at least one the Mercs at the start (I think it's diffucult) and then go for some fast runs executing a S-S-M.
BUT, I don't think that RB has the speed to do it.

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littlebigcat wrote:
31 Jul 2021, 16:29
politburo wrote:
31 Jul 2021, 16:27
Why would Horner go to the stewards for that?. What rule did Hamilton break as it pertains to driving standards?. Sounds like pure speculation abound.
Its all part of the 4D chess to brand Hamilton as a reckless and amateurish driver.

:wtf:
Brand a 15 year F1 veteran as a reckless and amateurish driver?, I'm quite sure he is one of the cleanest drivers on the grid, the track-record speaks for itself. Horner even admitted RB's reasoning for pushing a right to review was to see if they can protest the fact Hamilton won the race despite a penalty, not none of that reckless driver nonsense.
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