2021 Hungarian Grand Prix - Hungaroring, July 30 - Aug 01

[maxxer]

To bad for Sainz so tricky these cars when they go they go

But if there's any driver capable of charging through the field it is Sainz, especially if he starts on Mediums. if both drivers score for Ferrari it will be a good weekend, Aston Martin had great race pace yesterday adding to the usual competitors for points: Alpine and McLaren. It'll be great midfield battle yet again tomorrow. This track is reminiscent of Portimao now with the med-high speed mix of corners. and 1 nice straight.

Yes it will be an interesting battle on the midfield

[jurinius]

The Quali was done after RB decided to switch the tyres strategy. If RB has a fraction of confidence in their power, they would have ordered Max to pass Lewis.

The only persons interested in an hypothetical pole fight were the media, so they found something to talk about. Lets wait the race

[politburo]

It's part of the game, in Silverstone [...] they cheered the crash let's not forget. [...]

There are enough videos that show that they cheered the cars coming around the corner, gasped upon impact and then cheered for Max who got out of the car on his own - i haven't seen a single video that would show people actually cheering the impact.
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In theory, what are the rules that might be an issue for Lewis?
driving unnecessarily slowly?
any mandated outlap/sector times?

I heavily doubt that he, whilst having provisional pole, would infringe any of that - and as long as he doesn't he's free to drive the outlap however he wants and everyone behind him is free to overtake him, afaik the gentlemen's agreement only counts towards the end of the lap when the queue has already formed.

From the interviews it would seem that Perez wasn't even informed about how tight it was?

For as far as I'm concerned Hamilton did no wrong. If he was playing mind games that's entirely his perogative - but he did the same in Q2 on final run but Vettel overtook him at the end of the pitlane. Unless he did drive unnecessarily slowly in between the safety car lines but then Bottas and Ocon probably did as well, and we have seen that the race stewards dislike penalising more than 1 driver in qualifying. It may not be wrong, but it certainly is farcical. They have the same problem every week of every year, drivers go very slowly on the out lap and the all bunch up at the last corner.

[maxxer]

It's part of the game, in Silverstone [...] they cheered the crash let's not forget. [...]

There are enough videos that show that they cheered the cars coming around the corner, gasped upon impact and then cheered for Max who got out of the car on his own - i haven't seen a single video that would show people actually cheering the impact.
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In theory, what are the rules that might be an issue for Lewis?
driving unnecessarily slowly?
any mandated outlap/sector times?

I heavily doubt that he, whilst having provisional pole, would infringe any of that - and as long as he doesn't he's free to drive the outlap however he wants and everyone behind him is free to overtake him, afaik the gentlemen's agreement only counts towards the end of the lap when the queue has already formed.

From the interviews it would seem that Perez wasn't even informed about how tight it was?

For as far as I'm concerned Hamilton did no wrong. If he was playing mind games that's entirely his perogative - but he did the same in Q2 on final run but Vettel overtook him at the end of the pitlane. Unless he did drive unnecessarily slowly in between the safety car lines but then Bottas and Ocon probably did as well, and we have seen that the race stewards dislike penalising more than 1 driver in qualifying. It may not be wrong, but it certainly is farcical. They have the same problem every week of every year, drivers go very slowly on the out lap and the all bunch up at the last corner.

Seen another driver do that just pretend you go and do a practice start instead

[hollus]

This was the situation as Norris decided to launch his last Q lap.

[RZS10]

Yea, once the car in front is too slow you're too slow as well.

Looking at their outlap times it would appear that Red Bull might have needed quicker laps as Max went a lot faster on his previous ones, Lewis was actually faster by a few seconds compared to his previous run, so did not get the outlap he would have wanted as well.

That's the risk of trying to have the best track (in case it keeps improving) vs. just getting an uncompromised lap in, i guess.

[Magicsenna_41]

Romain Grosjean can now forget the Mercedes Test opportunity

Sorry don't know how to embed it properly. Maybe I need an awareness on that

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[foxmulder_ms]

Look at this picture:

3 33 Max Verstappen Red Bull Racing Honda 1:15.840
4 11 Sergio Perez Red Bull Racing Honda 1:16.421
5 10 Pierre Gasly Alphatauri Honda 1:16.483


Gasly is half a second slower than vest in both a redbull car and an alpha car

Redbull's ability to butcher their 2nd drivers is admirable.

[maxxer]

Look at this picture:

3 33 Max Verstappen Red Bull Racing Honda 1:15.840
4 11 Sergio Perez Red Bull Racing Honda 1:16.421
5 10 Pierre Gasly Alphatauri Honda 1:16.483


Gasly is half a second slower than vest in both a redbull car and an alpha car

Redbull's ability to butcher their 2nd drivers is admirable.

But in the interview on Sky Gasly said something like "I can steer this team in the right direction"
I guess 2nd driver in Redbull has to drive in the same setup as Max or something

[dans79]

Look at this picture:

3 33 Max Verstappen Red Bull Racing Honda 1:15.840
4 11 Sergio Perez Red Bull Racing Honda 1:16.421
5 10 Pierre Gasly Alphatauri Honda 1:16.483


Gasly is half a second slower than vest in both a redbull car and an alpha car

Redbull's ability to butcher their 2nd drivers is admirable.

But in the interview on Sky Gasly said something like "I can steer this team in the right direction"
I guess 2nd driver in Redbull has to drive in the same setup as Max or something

If I had to guess, he suggesting that at design time the car is tailored towards the driving preferences of the lead driver.

[Shrieker]

This was the situation as Norris decided to launch his last Q lap.

https://i.imgur.com/QSXWzJw.jpg

Oh please... Don't ruin people's day with facts and logic

[hollus]

You're welcome

[renault rs26]

Drivers crate a gap in 3rd sector, Hamilton was slowing down on pit exit. His lap was similar to previous because he drove faster than usual on some parts of outlap thus closing a gap to Bottas. Very dirty.

[renault rs26]

This was the situation as Norris decided to launch his last Q lap.

https://i.imgur.com/QSXWzJw.jpg

Oh please... Don't ruin people's day with facts and logic

People are angry because of his driving since pit exit not last few corners.

[nimoraca]

I personally had no problem with Hamilton pacing himself on the out lap and creating some distance from Bot. He did however decide to finish that last lap even though he clearly gave up on it (he was 2 seconds down) probably wanting to still give Verstappen some dirty air at that last corner. He could have just pitted. Again nothing against the rules but he was definitely playing some mind games.