Korean GP 2010 - Yeongam

[GTO]

Can we get back on topic?

[gibells]

Does anyone know whether Typhoon Megi will in any way effect Korea? It seems a way away but I have no idea if it can pull in some bad weather. Anyone any wiser?

[thestig84]

RT @fergieweather: KOREA:Split f'cast Typhoon Megi. Minority recurve N, Thurs = nasty for Taiwan. Dry race still expected but not guaranteed

Thats the BBC guys tweet about weather if you understand it.

[gibells]

RT @fergieweather: KOREA:Split f'cast Typhoon Megi. Minority recurve N, Thurs = nasty for Taiwan. Dry race still expected but not guaranteed

Thats the BBC guys tweet about weather if you understand it.

Thanks

[raymondu999]

Renault's simulations have shown a 1:44 predicted laptime: http://www.formula1.com/news/features/2 ... 11392.html

[Gerhard Berger]

Thanks for the article raymondu. They answered my earlier question - turn 7 will be flat, turn 8 will be "almost flat". I guess it will also depend on how grippy the surface is.

[ecapox]

Renault's simulations have shown a 1:44 predicted laptime: http://www.formula1.com/news/features/2 ... 11392.html

I did a 1:40:9xx last night in F1: 2010 in a Ferrari. 100% simulation, i know.

[forty-two]

Higher speeds = greater load = more flexing = wing ends closer to the ground = less disrupted air flow = high speed.

That's my thinking and I'm sticking to it (unless I am wrong of course!)

Higher speed = greater load = more flexing = more downfoce = more drag = less straight line speed

Just to annoy you


Talking about predictions... It's crunch time for McLaren.Hamilton will be fiercer than ever, going all out for a win. The championship contenders would do well to avoid him, and that might give him a little bit more chance

I think this is the key to why Red Bull tend to not be quite so competitive at high speed circuits.

When the circuit is mostly medium to low speed corners, the extra DF they get from the bendy FW is a great benefit to them, BUT they can't afford to run the FW quite so flexible at circuits with long straights for fear of scraping the FW on the road too much and destroying it. So, when long straights are involved, their FW is set up to be that bit stiffer, meaning that they don't have as much DF (and consequently less drag) which improves their top speed, but compromises them in the corners.

I think the control wire for the amount of flex is what was seen poking out of Vettel's wing following his collision with Button (see viewtopic.php?f=6&t=8764&start=945 for more detail).

Just the meanderings of a maniac!

[GTO]

Renault's simulations have shown a 1:44 predicted laptime: http://www.formula1.com/news/features/2 ... 11392.html

Either their simulations are set quite conservatively, not wanting to make public their or true findings, or I'm not getting to grips with how tight & twisty the track is...especially the slow turns 1, 3, 4, 5, 6 & 15 are. Like I had stated earlier, I thought the laptime would be in the range of 1:30 or max. 1:35 but not 1:44.
I suppose we won't know until the rubber hits the track for practice. Even then, I think the teams will hide their true low fuel pace. So for FP1 & 2 we will see laptimes approx. 1-2 sec. slower their final quali. pace.

[ecapox]

Either their simulations are set quite conservatively, not wanting to make public their or true findings, or I'm not getting to grips with how tight & twisty the track is...especially the slow turns 1, 3, 4, 5, 6 & 15 are. Like I had stated earlier, I thought the laptime would be in the range of 1:30 or max. 1:35 but not 1:44.
I suppose we won't know until the rubber hits the track for practice. Even then, I think the teams will hide their true low fuel pace. So for FP1 & 2 we will see laptimes approx. 1-2 sec. slower their final quali. pace.

My honest best guess is 1:32:xxx

I actually really like the track in F1 2010. It has nice flowy qualities as well as a few brutal slow turns.

[PlatinumZealot]

and what about the diffuser then? I am pretty sure that just loses downforce

That is why you raise the back. The boundary layer thickness increases from the leading edge of the splitter. In other words this slower moving layer air that is attached to under the bottom the surface of the floor will grow closer and closer to the ground as it travels to the rear, slowing up your main flow. So you raise the back up to keep the stream free. Another advantage of this is that the front splitter is closer to the ground, and you basically have created a larger diffuser cone with the floor.

You can see the rake in the picture below.



You will get more drag of course with using more rake vs a level floor. So I guess a good floor design can allow you to run less rake and keep your down-force.

Renault's simulations have shown a 1:44 predicted laptime: http://www.formula1.com/news/features/2 ... 11392.html

Sounding more and more like a Redbull track. I mean even from the RedBull video there are some nasty off-camber turns in there, so it is well confirmed that a car with a good mechanical reaction on the suspension will have the advantage.

[PlatinumZealot]

They even show a racing line on the official website:



Some parts look Suzuka-esque.
check out 4 to 6 as well..

[Sean H]

Renault's simulations have shown a 1:44 predicted laptime: http://www.formula1.com/news/features/2 ... 11392.html

Either their simulations are set quite conservatively, not wanting to make public their or true findings, or I'm not getting to grips with how tight & twisty the track is...especially the slow turns 1, 3, 4, 5, 6 & 15 are. Like I had stated earlier, I thought the laptime would be in the range of 1:30 or max. 1:35 but not 1:44.
I suppose we won't know until the rubber hits the track for practice. Even then, I think the teams will hide their true low fuel pace. So for FP1 & 2 we will see laptimes approx. 1-2 sec. slower their final quali. pace.

1:44 could be a simulation of the beginning of the race, that probably won't be far off with full fuel.

I would guess pole is 1:32-1:33. Fastest lap will be around 1:35.

[Shrieker]

I played an F1-2010 conversion on r-factor. The twisty bit starting after turn 10 until the end of the lap is real fun ! I did a 1.38.9 with a BMW Sauber 2008.

[wesley123]

guessing times on yor in game experience is just stupid to do, sorry to say that. None of them are even close to the real deal, i believe the rF version was only flat and F1-2010 version has its walls way too close also limiting it.

My quick guess is an laptime around the 1:40, it isnt an really long circuit and requires an spa package, just to have enough df in the sweeping part of the track.

After looking a bit more into it i can say the track doesnt suit a car best. A few corners suit the Red bull really well, but the slow ones and straights are more for mclaren, and hen you have ferrari in between and maybe even renault. Gonna be an exiting race.