2025 Mercedes-AMG | Petronas F1 Team

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OverheatedTurbo
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F1Krof wrote:
26 May 2025, 17:47
I doesn't matter what they change. There's no big-step expected anyways. Even if they bring, the confidence of it working as expected is very low. They simply have no understanding of their cars in this era of regulations.
Maybe not in terms of raw performance, but a clear step in tyre management can help.

DGP123
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F1Krof wrote:
26 May 2025, 17:47
They simply have no understanding of their cars in this era of regulations.
Straight to the point. Likely they won’t win a race this season. Allison has already abandoned 25’, and Resta is now responsible. All eyes on, 26’.

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Luscion wrote:
26 May 2025, 18:08
Toto saying Merc dont have the performance they had in Miami with the new suspension but seems like theyre going to try it again in barcelona

https://autoracer.it/it/f1-russell-anto ... intervista
I doubt it

Tonino
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Glad to see James already moving on to the 2026 project. 2025 is a waste of time.

OverheatedTurbo
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DGP123 wrote:
26 May 2025, 18:31
F1Krof wrote:
26 May 2025, 17:47
They simply have no understanding of their cars in this era of regulations.
Straight to the point. Likely they won’t win a race this season. Allison has already abandoned 25’, and Resta is now responsible. All eyes on, 26’.
Let’s wait until Spain. These regs are trash either way and I’m happy that we are never going to see these Venturi floors ever again.

Waz
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OverheatedTurbo wrote:
26 May 2025, 21:34
DGP123 wrote:
26 May 2025, 18:31
F1Krof wrote:
26 May 2025, 17:47
They simply have no understanding of their cars in this era of regulations.
Straight to the point. Likely they won’t win a race this season. Allison has already abandoned 25’, and Resta is now responsible. All eyes on, 26’.
Let’s wait until Spain. These regs are trash either way and I’m happy that we are never going to see these Venturi floors ever again.
Floors aren't the problem. Poorly thought out regulations around the suspension are.

All of the issues with these cars could have been solved with either active suspension, or similar rules to the previous set.

If the same basic setup is required next year, the same issues can still crop up.

OverheatedTurbo
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Waz wrote:
27 May 2025, 16:48
OverheatedTurbo wrote:
26 May 2025, 21:34
DGP123 wrote:
26 May 2025, 18:31


Straight to the point. Likely they won’t win a race this season. Allison has already abandoned 25’, and Resta is now responsible. All eyes on, 26’.
Let’s wait until Spain. These regs are trash either way and I’m happy that we are never going to see these Venturi floors ever again.
Floors aren't the problem. Poorly thought out regulations around the suspension are.

All of the issues with these cars could have been solved with either active suspension, or similar rules to the previous set.

If the same basic setup is required next year, the same issues can still crop up.
Tombazis should be sent to the Gulag. Imagine these cars with active suspension…they’d be very fast.

Matt2725
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It always seemed archaic to me the way they forced a simplification of the suspension going into 2022.

It also appears like it was a big mistake to do so.

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Matt2725 wrote:
28 May 2025, 00:08
It always seemed archaic to me the way they forced a simplification of the suspension going into 2022.

It also appears like it was a big mistake to do so.
Stiff suspension + the addition of bigger wheels with skinner tread + wheel covers was indeed a disaster for these regulations. It didn’t improve racing, it got worse, much worse.

I don’t blame Pirelli because they’re trying to work around a fatal flaw that these regulations presented with a sidepod concept that most of the grid runs which exploits these issues.

If the FIA opens up the wheel covers like F2, Pirelli and Most of the grid will be extremely happy with that.