Lewis Hamilton driving standards

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Lewis Hamilton Interview Monaco Grand Prix - After Race

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RteXh2Z_ ... ture=feedu[/youtube]

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CHT wrote:
Fil wrote:I'm not a fan of Hamilton at all, but I agree with n smikle.

We want overtaking, and overtaking attempts in F1.

Hamilton put it on the line in Monaco, even after failing on his first overtaking attempt. My hat off to him for providing a spectacle, and showing that overtaking in F1 is still not always easy.

Oh and his post-Monaco GP comments, and his driving are two separate issues. Don't blur the two together.
I think if it was a rookie (instead of Lewis) that took out 2 cars in the same race. everyone will be calling for FIA to ban him from F1.
OK, OK.. lets look at the incidents to see if it was really low driving standard on Hamilton's part.

Exhibit A:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLtXdVbe ... ture=feedu[/youtube]
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It was massa's fault at the hairpin...

You can clearly see massa takes a wide line - looks in his mirrors - sees hamilton - by then it's too late & he turns in early! - then has to correct it to make sure it doesn't look like he blocks hamilton intentionally!

So unfair that everyone is bashing Hamilton...

The maldonado incident is harder to judge though..

Massa's lack of reaction also backs up what ive just said.


Believe me I like Massa & Hamilton but massa was CLEARLY at fault.

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chepoi wrote:Lewis Hamilton Interview Monaco Grand Prix - After Race

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RteXh2Z_ ... ture=feedu[/youtube]
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Angry Black man on isle three! :lol:

Sure he'll be fighting back in Canada.
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The FIA and a whole bunch of motoring journalists do not agree. Hamilton wasnt alongside Massa.

And just when you think his day could not go anymore wrong he gives that interview...

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I'd say he'd better watch next race on TV.

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He should watch de Di resta interview, managed by a certain A. Hamilton. Di Resta plainly admitted fault, said he was wrong, should have waited, should have used his head.

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CHT wrote:... I think if it was a rookie (instead of Lewis) that took out 2 cars in the same race. everyone will be calling for FIA to ban him from F1.
Oh, the fun of crashing into rookie cars! You always get a laugh off that! If you're a tad lucky and people don't see the replay well, the stupid rookie gets the penalty!

Who needs exhibits, n_smikle? This is not an "I've-come-to-learn" thread. Hamilton certainly did the overtakes of the year. Hard to forget, ain't them? He gave Schumi a lesson, unlike everybody else.

It was Massa, Maldonado and Sutil faults. If Hamilton had crashed with anyone else, it would have been his fault too.

It wasn't like if Hamilton was desperate for a win no matter who he took away from the race. It was the other's fault. It always is. That's why he's angry. He's alone, except for us, his faithful admirers. Thank heaven he has me to defend him.

How do you expect him to say it was his fault, Jimmy, if it never is? Do you want him to lie? Is it because he's black?

Wasn't that guy Hendrix a racist? I think he was.
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n smikle wrote:
OK, OK.. lets look at the incidents to see if it was really low driving standard on Hamilton's part.

Exhibit A:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLtXdVbe ... ture=feedu[/youtube]

it will be nice to show the clip that is in real time. at least we know if there is any chance Maldonaldo could space to lewis without ending up in the wall. from what I can see, Maldonaldo is definitely taking the racing line.

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ringo wrote:Hamilton is THE BOSS.
he opened up a can of woop ass on shumacher into turn 1. Overtake of the year.
While that was an absolutely beautiful move, he was damn lucky that Schu chose to go wide and avoid a collision. Had he not done so, the crash would have been Hamilton's fault.

To me it looked like he was driving erratically today. I was half-expecting him to be DSQ'd.

It's nice to have somebody stir things up a litte, but today he was just reckless.

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n smikle wrote:
CHT wrote:
Fil wrote:I'm not a fan of Hamilton at all, but I agree with n smikle.

We want overtaking, and overtaking attempts in F1.

Hamilton put it on the line in Monaco, even after failing on his first overtaking attempt. My hat off to him for providing a spectacle, and showing that overtaking in F1 is still not always easy.

Oh and his post-Monaco GP comments, and his driving are two separate issues. Don't blur the two together.
I think if it was a rookie (instead of Lewis) that took out 2 cars in the same race. everyone will be calling for FIA to ban him from F1.
OK, OK.. lets look at the incidents to see if it was really low driving standard on Hamilton's part.

Exhibit A:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLtXdVbe ... ture=feedu[/youtube]
do repeat the video at 0:01 several times clearly shows that maldonado did it early. Compare the racing line of the car behind Hamilton... my 2 cents opinion, that is the racing line that maldonado should go. When maldonado doing this, he use the term "defending" the position. For me.. this is a jungle law where the racer who want to overtake does not have a fair chance and have a big chance of possible penalty. So.. The FIA rules itself "does not encourage the overtakes" in F1.

Some people will not agree with me.....
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CHT wrote:it will be nice to show the clip that is in real time. at least we know if there is any chance Maldonaldo could space to lewis without ending up in the wall. from what I can see, Maldonaldo is definitely taking the racing line.
It's never as simple as that though - if you watch carefully at the beginning of that clip Hamilton did not brake any later than Maldonaldo or try and carry any more speed into the corner. He was alongside at the point they hit the brakes and Maldonaldo just turned in on him. Remember when Schumacher nearly drove Barrichello into the pit wall and got a penalty for it, that demonstrates that the lead driver cannot just take any line he likes, he must leave space for other cars. Had Hamilton tried to out brake him and steamed up the inside then I would agree there would be cause for complaint, simple fact is that instead Maldonaldo turned in on him and ran him off the road.

As he says it's incredibly difficult to overtake in Monaco and those drivers that pulled off overtakes only managed to do so because the other drivers didn't explicitly turn into them not because they did anything different to Lewis. Had Kobayashi turned in on Webber then would Webber have been at fault? Same type of move but in one the defending driver turned in, for the other they didn't.

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All that i see is that in every race weekend,winner or loser,everybody is talking about Hamilton.Thats has to say something.Hes the big star he has his supporters and his haters.Whether u like it or not its the fact so deal with it people.Vettel wins and nobody gives a damn about him or his finger.The most impressive thing that came from him was the Ya-ba-da-ba-doo crap in the radio.All we see is endless Hamilton talking and comparing with other drivers or severe criticism from mostly armchair specialists.

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He was given a penalty for both events, end of story. If anything, he has gained a reputation now, which fairly or not, will influence future decisions as well.

He is upset by the penalties, but how about just not putting yourself deep in the field with bad decisions in Q3? That solves the problem of being behind slower cars on an impossible track to pass. The team and himself ultimately put him in those postions.

As far as people talking about him, people also talk alot about Danica Patrick and Dale Jr, but niether contend or win, so just because people talk about you doesn't mean you matter on the race track.
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Bashy looking thread here. The topic could be "Blah blah Hamilton blah" and the content would differ very little me thinks.

I'll check back later and see of there is a reason to NOT lock the thread.
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